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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could you supply a frame of reference for this please
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<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Lau<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 23 November 2012 9:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Q about time zones especially UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Even moving floors is enough to cause headaches these days!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"At F1's level of precision, even general relativity introduces problems; when technicians recently moved F1 from the third floor to the second, they had to re-tune the system
 to compensate for the 11-and-a-half foot drop in altitude."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/12/time_nist?currentPage=all" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/12/time_nist</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 21 November 2012 17:00, Sean K. Finn <<a href="mailto:sean.finn@ozservers.com.au" target="_blank">sean.finn@ozservers.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I believe these guys measure Time and Time Distortion to compensate and be aware of
 exactly how much time dilation is taking place.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Wilkins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Q about time zones especially UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">I'm sure time drift on satellites from Einsteinian time dilation is a pain.<br>
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Paul Wilkins<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Ian Henderson <</span><a href="mailto:ianh@ianh.net.au" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">ianh@ianh.net.au</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">On 21/11/2012, at 3:08 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <</span><a href="mailto:mmc@mmc.com.au" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">mmc@mmc.com.au</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>
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>> UTC.<br>
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> HQT.<br>
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> (HeadQuartersTime).<br>
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What timezone do you set on servers in the cloud, considering they could migrate themselves to any physical location? Fun times in the future when inter-planetary vMotion is commonplace. :P<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
Andrew Lau<br>
Systems Engineer<br>
Fairfax Media<br>
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T:  02 9282 3445<br>
E: <a href="mailto:alau@fairfaxmedia.com.au" target="_blank">alau@fairfaxmedia.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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