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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Could the current speeds be adversely
      impacted by a bunch of AusNOG subscribers doing speed tests
      perhaps?<br>
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      On 14/11/12 12:01, Greg Lipschitz wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            can’t say that I’m overly impressed with the speed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Uploaded
            at 75KB/sec<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Downloaded
            at 20KB/sec<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
            <br>
            Greg Lipschitz <br>
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              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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            lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua D'Alton<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 November 2012 11:16 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Announcing the AWS Asia Pacific
            (Sydney) Region<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Yes the price
          for 5000TB over 3 years is more than 15 million, yet the
          hardware would cost less than 2mill, add in racking and
          bandwidth it might rise to 5 mil, but nowhere near 10 let
          alone 15.<br>
          <br>
          Anyway, AWS isn't used by penny pinchers :D<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:13 AM, ausnog
            (321) <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ausnog@321.com.au" target="_blank">ausnog@321.com.au</a>>
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Morning all,<br>
            <br>
            My first impression of the rates is a bit contrary to others
            on this thread. Specifically,  I don’t see them as great
            value for data storage if you are using them for off-site
            storage.<br>
            <br>
            Two caveats to my comment are:<br>
            -       assuming that you are using AWS for off-site backup
            then you just need a good NAS (we set this up as NAS with
            Raid 6 plus 1 spare giving 26TB usable space, good
            performance and resilience with option to replicate to multi
            datacentres/locations) in 2ru.<br>
            -       Even if you are using AWS as highly available
            clustered storage they are still not that well priced by our
            price book.<br>
            <br>
            Even using their online price calculator 26TB of usable
            space (standard storage) costs $2,856.70pm or $34,280.40pa
            or $102,841.20 over 3 years and it’s not hard to do better
            than that.<br>
            <br>
            What am I missing?<o:p></o:p></p>
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                -----Original Message-----<br>
                From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
                [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                On Behalf Of Emily Ozols<br>
                Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 9:33 AM<br>
                To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Announcing the AWS Asia Pacific
                (Sydney) Region<br>
                <br>
                I just read their prices this morning and I'm astounded
                as how low they've kept them.<br>
                They have to be selling at a loss.<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing"
                  target="_blank">http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing</a><br>
                Just check them out here.<br>
                <br>
                On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Joshua D'Alton <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>>
                wrote:<br>
                > This could make some impact re the peering thread
                at least on a<br>
                > national scale. hmmm<br>
                ><br>
                > -----------------------------<br>
                > Dear AWS Customer,<br>
                ><br>
                > We are excited to announce the immediate
                availability of our new Asia<br>
                > Pacific (Sydney) Region.<br>
                ><br>
                > Starting today, customers can run their
                applications and workloads in<br>
                > the new Asia Pacific (Sydney) Region to reduce
                latency to end-users<br>
                > based in Australia and New Zealand while avoiding
                the up-front<br>
                > expenses, long-term commitments, and scaling
                challenges associated<br>
                > with maintaining and operating their own
                infrastructure. Sydney joins<br>
                > Singapore and Tokyo as the third Region in Asia
                Pacific and as the ninth Region worldwide.<br>
                ><br>
                > AWS’s new Sydney<br>
                ><br>
                ><br>
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                --<br>
                ~Em<br>
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