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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Agreeing with your answer/calc and add the comment that even at lower quantities the numbers just don’t stack up, they are expensive compared to other existing local solution. I used 26TB as we sell/host heaps of these and to good sized businesses as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My question was meant to also understand why others on the list thought it was good value as I just don’t see it, ie why all the excitement?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]">[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua D'Alton<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 November 2012 11:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Announcing the AWS Asia Pacific (Sydney) Region<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yes the price for 5000TB over 3 years is more than 15 million, yet the hardware would cost less than 2mill, add in racking and bandwidth it might rise to 5 mil, but nowhere near 10 let alone 15.<br><br>Anyway, AWS isn't used by penny pinchers :D<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:13 AM, ausnog (321) <<a href="mailto:ausnog@321.com.au" target="_blank">ausnog@321.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Morning all,<br><br>My first impression of the rates is a bit contrary to others on this thread. Specifically, I don’t see them as great value for data storage if you are using them for off-site storage.<br><br>Two caveats to my comment are:<br>- assuming that you are using AWS for off-site backup then you just need a good NAS (we set this up as NAS with Raid 6 plus 1 spare giving 26TB usable space, good performance and resilience with option to replicate to multi datacentres/locations) in 2ru.<br>- Even if you are using AWS as highly available clustered storage they are still not that well priced by our price book.<br><br>Even using their online price calculator 26TB of usable space (standard storage) costs $2,856.70pm or $34,280.40pa or $102,841.20 over 3 years and it’s not hard to do better than that.<br><br>What am I missing?<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Emily Ozols<br>Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 9:33 AM<br>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Announcing the AWS Asia Pacific (Sydney) Region<br><br>I just read their prices this morning and I'm astounded as how low they've kept them.<br>They have to be selling at a loss.<br><a href="http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing" target="_blank">http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing</a><br>Just check them out here.<br><br>On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Joshua D'Alton <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>> This could make some impact re the peering thread at least on a<br>> national scale. hmmm<br>><br>> -----------------------------<br>> Dear AWS Customer,<br>><br>> We are excited to announce the immediate availability of our new Asia<br>> Pacific (Sydney) Region.<br>><br>> Starting today, customers can run their applications and workloads in<br>> the new Asia Pacific (Sydney) Region to reduce latency to end-users<br>> based in Australia and New Zealand while avoiding the up-front<br>> expenses, long-term commitments, and scaling challenges associated<br>> with maintaining and operating their own infrastructure. Sydney joins<br>> Singapore and Tokyo as the third Region in Asia Pacific and as the ninth Region worldwide.<br>><br>> AWS’s new Sydney<br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AusNOG mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>><br><br><br><br>--<br>~Em<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>