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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">$15 / Mbit? Where do I sign?<br>
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On 09/11/12 15:46, Joshua D'Alton wrote:<br>
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type="cite">If AAPT are offering deals down to the $15/Mbit level
I'd think reliability is probably not a great concern, even if you
were a business grade ISP. Without knowing their exact situation
it would make sense that them charging more for transit probably
wouldn't help reliability as much as people would think. With
players like Exetel iiNet and TPG gathering transit from them, you
can be fairly sure that 'transit' is still domestic for AAPT, more
than likely just to another Go4. In other words, cheap.
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<div>It is certainly needed to help reduce the number of
situations where a provider will sign with someone like NTT for
their transit, terminate it in Sydney, and let NTT do whatever
they want with it after it leaves AU shores, since by that point
it is going to be high-latency regardless. And for things like
Office365 online, latency to SG really doesn't matter.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Chris
Ricks <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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A few years ago, I was speaking to James Linton and Glen
Ward from<br>
Exetel about some of our services.<br>
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Glen was ex-Optus and mentioned that the peering arrangement
was more of<br>
a "swap" than straight settlement-free, whatever that means.<br>
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Regarding AAPT, they seem to be more aggressively competing
for transit<br>
deals at present. Exetel seemingly have the majority of
their transit<br>
capacity with them, iiNet and TPG have fairly decent transit
with them<br>
and quite a few people I've spoken to are getting approaches
from them.<br>
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That said, they'd need to sort out their reliability issues
to get<br>
decent traction in the market one would think.<br>
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On 09/11/12 15:26, Sam Silvester wrote:<br>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Mark Newton <<a
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href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> So I think the best path out of this mess is to
lobby the ACCC to<br>
>> repeal their GoF decision, to de-regulate
peering.<br>
> I agree with this. Once you are regulating this, it
becomes<br>
> 'exclusive' and thus less about the 'value' that
Brad, Mark and myself<br>
> have mentioned and far more about looking to the
Govt for direction.<br>
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> Looking at the various IXes around Australia, it
seems that if it<br>
> makes sense (cost, latency, <insert your
particular definition of<br>
> 'value' here>), network operators are by and
large (yes, corporates<br>
> could be more involved, but still) making good
choices about<br>
> interconnecting via either MPLA or bilateral links.<br>
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> I wonder - what would happen to AAPT's peering if
the current GoF<br>
> decision went away?<br>
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> Sam<br>
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