<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 09/11/2012, at 7:00 AM, Rhys McMurdo <<a href="mailto:rhys_ausnog@mcmurdo.id.au">rhys_ausnog@mcmurdo.id.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Am I missing something, or has nothing really changed?</blockquote><div><br></div>The Government's new policy is the status quo we've had since 2001. The Government</div><div>could have arrived at this point 5 years ago without wrecking their goodwill and </div><div>reputation, but Conroy only knows how to do things by fighting, so that's how we got</div><div>here.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>It just looks like they are replacing a pre-defined filter list with one they will make up themselves?</div></blockquote><br></div><div>They have in-principle agreement to do... something.</div><div><br></div><div>I can't see anyone in law enforcement wanting to distribute the interpol list to (say)</div><div><a href="http://smellyblackdog.com.au">smellyblackdog.com.au</a>. And even if they did, they'd need to give it to you in plaintext</div><div>so you could load it into your DNS server. Security nightmare.</div><div><br></div><div>My expectation is that now the ALP has moved forward by announcing an intention</div><div>to move nowhere, nothing will actually happen. You might <i>theoretically</i> receive </div><div>section 313 requests to block URLs, but you'll never actually see any. Success,</div><div>DBCDE-style.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd be interested in hearing if any ISPs ever receive any URLs. I obviously don't want </div><div>to know what the URLs are, but whether they exist will be a useful accountability </div><div>datapoint.</div><div><br></div><div> - mark</div><div><br></div></body></html>