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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">After sending that link, I did some
      checking and am struggling to find an example of getting to AS4802
      via AS2764. <br>
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      Even AAPT's own looking glass jumps off onto AS1221 for every
      range I've tried.<br>
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      On 09/11/12 16:54, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br>
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        <div>Can't be a lot, let alone any ...</div>
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        <div>On 08/11/2012, at 9:49 PM, Chris Ricks <<a
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              On 09/11/12 16:47, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br>
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                <div>On 08/11/2012, at 9:40 PM, "Joshua D'Alton" <<a
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                <blockquote type="cite">iiNet are still having to rely
                  on AAPT for a lot of their connectivity, so seems like
                  it isn't as obvious a win.<br>
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                <div>Are you sure about that?  Where can you see AS4802
                  behind AS2764? </div>
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                <div>MMC</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:11
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                      <div>On 08/11/2012, at 8:48 PM, Andrew Warburton
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                        > Is this the point where the conversation
                        shifts from being a productive discussion to a
                        display of personal grudges?<br>
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                      That's a bit overly sensitive.  But it's reality -
                      the amount of traffic to/from AAPT/VzB isn't that
                      much anymore since both sold off your eyeballs to
                      iiNET.<br>
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                          MMC<br>
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