<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 08/11/2012, at 10:03 PM, Joshua D'Alton <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I was actually thinking backhaul more than internet. Unless things changed massively with internode it was my understanding that all those cute iiNet DSLAMs were being fed by AAPT fiber. Could be wrong.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>PIPE fibre mostly, originally some Telstra Ethernet.</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Michael Kratz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:MKratz@internode.com.au" target="_blank">MKratz@internode.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On 09/11/2012, at 4:19 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:<br>
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> <a href="http://www.iinet.net.au/iinetwork/network-diagrams.html" target="_blank">http://www.iinet.net.au/iinetwork/network-diagrams.html</a><br>
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</div>That doesn't show you how much is actually being used.<br>
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That diagram also looks like it's pre-acquisition of Internode.<br>
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No Internode interconnects shown there, which you can see on these:<br>
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<a href="http://www.internode.on.net/pdf/network/internode-national-network.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.internode.on.net/pdf/network/internode-national-network.pdf</a><br>
<a href="http://www.internode.on.net/pdf/network/internode-international-network.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.internode.on.net/pdf/network/internode-international-network.pdf</a><br>
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iiNet are making more use of this network these days.<br>
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> On 09/11/12 16:47, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br>
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>> On 08/11/2012, at 9:40 PM, "Joshua D'Alton" <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> iiNet are still having to rely on AAPT for a lot of their connectivity, so seems like it isn't as obvious a win.<br>
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>> Are you sure about that? Where can you see AS4802 behind AS2764?<br>
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>> MMC<br>
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>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <<a href="mailto:mmc@mmc.com.au">mmc@mmc.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> On 08/11/2012, at 8:48 PM, Andrew Warburton <<a href="mailto:andrew.warburton@aapt.com.au">andrew.warburton@aapt.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> > Is this the point where the conversation shifts from being a productive discussion to a display of personal grudges?<br>
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>>> That's a bit overly sensitive. But it's reality - the amount of traffic to/from AAPT/VzB isn't that much anymore since both sold off your eyeballs to iiNET.<br>
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>>> MMC<br>
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