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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Equinix are in Sydney and they offer
decent pricing for 1GbE ports for peering.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure if they still offer access to their IX in Melbourne
and Brisbane though....<br>
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On 08/11/12 12:47, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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type="cite">But they aren't in Sydney.
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<div>WAIX's pricing is great... but until they are an option,
there is no point worrying about them (in Sydney).<br
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Brad
Peczka <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma">I think
WAIA is doing a pretty good job of that already. Today
= VIC-IX, QLD-IX, WAIX, tomorrow = the world! :-)</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma">Regards,</font></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 8 November 2012 9:38 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was:
Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Time to build a new
IX?</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:32<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b>
Noel Butler<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Cc:</span></b>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus
peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?</span></font><span
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">Noel,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">Because it
affects us all. In extra costs, extra
complexity, extra hassles, extra design
considerations, less choice in interconnect
options, etc.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">I've had
multiple customers who have had extra work
put on them by cable re-routing and
re-provisioning, which in the end all seems
to be caused by some bullshit turf war.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">It is
like the days when AAPT through Pipe out of
their DC's.... now Pipe, under the new
ownership seems to be doing the same thing.
The company that rose to success largely
because of who ran it and how they operated,
no longer seems to consider what people
think of them, which is sad, because it is
(or was) a good network asset.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
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still have a good value proposition, but
this shit doesn't help anyone.<br
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Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Noel Butler
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">On Thu,
2012-11-08 at 00:30 +1100, Skeeve
Stevens wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
> Is anyone willing to openly talk
about what is going on with Vocus and
Pipe? <br>
> Who is pissed at who for what is
the question?<br>
<br>
Ummm, sorry, why should they?<br>
<br>
<br>
The commercial agreement between them,
is, well, between them - nobody else.<br>
<br>
If you have a commercial agreement with
PIPE and/or Vocus that's between you and
each peer provider, it doesn't give
anyone the right to know how they
connect or why they change things.<br>
<br>
End result is, you are all still
connected to the Internet, nobody has
dropped off the face of it because of
this.<br>
Life goes on.<br>
<br>
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