<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
      http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Equinix are in Sydney and they offer
      decent pricing for 1GbE ports for peering.<br>
      <br>
      I'm not sure if they still offer access to their IX in Melbourne
      and Brisbane though....<br>
      <br>
      On 08/11/12 12:47, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAEUfUGOuh47qtmP=WHnx7R+Wh2YyurV08pbW3o5szojZ7eS_Rw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">But they aren't in Sydney.
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>WAIX's pricing is great... but until they are an option,
        there is no point worrying about them (in Sydney).<br
          clear="all">
        <div><font face="Calibri"><b><br>
              <br>
            </b></font></div>
        <div><b style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px">Skeeve
            Stevens, CEO - </b><span
            style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px">eintellego Pty
            Ltd</span></div>
        <div>
          <div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
              style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:skeeve@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellego.net</a> ; <a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eintellego.net/"
                target="_blank">www.eintellego.net</a></span><span
              style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-size:13px"><font
                style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" color="#002060">
                <p style="margin:0px;font-family:Calibri">
                  Phone: 1300 753 383; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true">skype://skeeve</a></p>
                <p style="margin:0px;font-family:Calibri"><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://facebook.com/eintellego"
                    target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellego</a> ; <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </p>
                <p style="margin:0px;font-family:Calibri"><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau"
                    target="_blank">twitter.com/networkceoau</a> ;
                  blog: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.network-ceo.net/" target="_blank">www.network-ceo.net</a></p>
              </font></span></div>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
            <div><span style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-size:13px">
                <div><span style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-size:13px"><img
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      src="http://eintellego.net/sig/logo.png"><br>
                  </span></div>
                The Experts Who The Experts Call</span></div>
            <div style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)">
              <div><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper
                  - Cisco – IBM</span><span
                  style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span
                  style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Brocade -
                  Cloud</span></div>
              <div>
                <div><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">-----</span></div>
                <div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:small"><font
                    color="#002060">Check out our Juniper promotion
                    website for Oct/Nov!  </font><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://eintellego.mx/"
                    style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"
                    target="_blank">eintellego.mx</a></div>
                <div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:small"><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px">Free
                    Apple products during this promotion!!! </span></div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Brad
          Peczka <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:brad@bradpeczka.com" target="_blank">brad@bradpeczka.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div link="blue" vlink="blue" lang="EN-AU">
              <div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma">I think
                  WAIA is doing a pretty good job of that already. Today
                  = VIC-IX, QLD-IX, WAIX, tomorrow = the world! :-)</font></div>
              <div dir="ltr"> </div>
              <div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma">Regards,</font></div>
              <div dir="ltr"><font face="Tahoma">-<font face="tahoma">Brad.</font></font></div>
              <div style="DIRECTION:ltr">
                <hr>
                <font face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
                    target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
                  [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
                    target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                  On Behalf Of Greg Smith [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:greg@webmetrix.com.au" target="_blank">greg@webmetrix.com.au</a>]<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 8 November 2012 9:38 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens; Noel Butler<br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
                    target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was:
                  Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?<br>
                </font><br>
              </div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Time to build a new
                        IX?</span></font></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt"></span></font> </p>
                  <div>
                    <div style="TEXT-ALIGN:center" class="MsoNormal"
                      align="center"><font face="Times New Roman"
                        size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"
                          lang="EN-US">
                          <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%">
                        </span></font></div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma"><span
                            style="FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-WEIGHT:bold"
                            lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font
                        face="Tahoma"><span
                          style="FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;FONT-SIZE:10pt"
                          lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
                            target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
                          [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
                            target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                          <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">On Behalf Of
                            </span></b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
                          <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                          Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:32<br>
                          <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b>
                          Noel Butler<br>
                          <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
                            target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                          <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                          Re: [AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus
                          peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?</span></font><span
                        lang="EN-US"></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                      size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"></span></font> </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                      size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">Noel,</span></font></p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                        size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"></span></font> </p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                        size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">Because it
                          affects us all.  In extra costs, extra
                          complexity, extra hassles, extra design
                          considerations, less choice in interconnect
                          options, etc.</span></font></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                          size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"></span></font> </p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                          size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">I've had
                            multiple customers who have had extra work
                            put on them by cable re-routing and
                            re-provisioning, which in the end all seems
                            to be caused by some bullshit turf war.</span></font></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                          size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"></span></font> </p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                          size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">It is
                            like the days when AAPT through Pipe out of
                            their DC's.... now Pipe, under the new
                            ownership seems to be doing the same thing.
                             The company that rose to success largely
                            because of who ran it and how they operated,
                            no longer seems to consider what people
                            think of them, which is sad, because it is
                            (or was) a good network asset.</span></font></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                          size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"></span></font> </p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                          size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">They
                            still have a good value proposition, but
                            this shit doesn't help anyone.<br
                              clear="all">
                          </span></font></p>
                      <div>
                        <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><font
                            face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                              style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"></span></font> </p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Calibri"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Skeeve
                                Stevens, CEO - </span></font></b><font
                            face="Calibri"><span
                              style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;FONT-SIZE:10pt">eintellego

                              Pty Ltd</span></font></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;FONT-SIZE:10pt"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:skeeve@eintellego.net"
                                  target="_blank">skeeve@eintellego.net</a> ; <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.eintellego.net/"
                                  target="_blank">www.eintellego.net</a><font
                                  color="black"><span style=""></span></font></span></font></p>
                          <p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font
                              color="black" face="Calibri"><span
                                style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri">Phone:
                                1300 753 383; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383
                                ; skype://skeeve</span></font></p>
                          <p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font
                              color="black" face="Calibri"><span
                                style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri"><a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://facebook.com/eintellego"
                                  target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellego</a> ; <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve"
                                  target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </span></font></p>
                          <p style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt"><font
                              color="black" face="Calibri"><span
                                style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri"><a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau"
                                  target="_blank">twitter.com/networkceoau</a> ;
                                blog: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://www.network-ceo.net/"
                                  target="_blank">www.network-ceo.net</a></span></font></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#7f007f"
                                  face="Calibri"><span
                                    style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;COLOR:#7f007f;FONT-SIZE:10pt"><img
                                      moz-do-not-send="true" height="35"
                                      border="0" width="173"></span></font></p>
                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#7f007f"
                                face="Calibri"><span
                                  style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;COLOR:#7f007f;FONT-SIZE:10pt">The
                                  Experts Who The Experts Call</span></font><font
                                face="Calibri"><span
                                  style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri"></span></font></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#002060"
                                  face="Calibri"><span
                                    style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;COLOR:#002060;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Juniper
                                    - Cisco – IBM - Brocade - Cloud</span></font><font
                                  color="#7f007f" face="Calibri"><span
                                    style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;COLOR:#7f007f;FONT-SIZE:10.5pt"></span></font></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                    color="#002060" face="Calibri"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;COLOR:#002060;FONT-SIZE:10pt">-----</span></font><font
                                    color="#7f007f" face="Calibri"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;COLOR:#7f007f;FONT-SIZE:10.5pt"></span></font></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                    color="#002060" face="Calibri"
                                    size="3"><span
                                      style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;COLOR:#002060;FONT-SIZE:12pt">Check
                                      out our Juniper promotion website
                                      for Oct/Nov!  </span></font><font
                                    color="black" face="Calibri"><span
                                      style="font-family:Calibri"><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://eintellego.mx/"
                                        target="_blank"><font><span
                                            style="FONT-SIZE:10pt">eintellego.mx</span></font></a></span></font></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
                                    face="Calibri"><span
                                      style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri">Free
                                      Apple products during this
                                      promotion!!! </span></font><font
                                    color="black" face="Calibri"><span
                                      style="font-family:Calibri"></span></font></p>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><font
                          face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                            style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"><br>
                            <br>
                          </span></font></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New
                            Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">On
                              Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Noel Butler
                              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net"
                                target="_blank">noel.butler@ausics.net</a>>
                              wrote:</span></font></p>
                        <div>
                          <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt"
                            class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New
                              Roman" size="3"><span
                                style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">On Thu,
                                2012-11-08 at 00:30 +1100, Skeeve
                                Stevens wrote:<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                > Is anyone willing to openly talk
                                about what is going on with Vocus and
                                Pipe? <br>
                                > Who is pissed at who for what is
                                the question?<br>
                                <br>
                                Ummm, sorry, why should they?<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                The commercial agreement between them,
                                is, well,  between them - nobody else.<br>
                                <br>
                                If you have a commercial agreement with
                                PIPE and/or Vocus that's between you and
                                each peer provider, it doesn't give
                                anyone the right to know how they
                                connect or why they change things.<br>
                                <br>
                                End result is, you are all still
                                connected to the Internet, nobody has
                                dropped off the face of it because of
                                this.<br>
                                Life goes on.<br>
                                <br>
                              </span></font></p>
                        </div>
                        <p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><font
                            face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                              style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                              AusNOG mailing list<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net"
                                target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog"
                                target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a></span></font></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                          size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"></span></font> </p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
AusNOG mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a>
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>