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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I don't think we see a lot of VDSL2 in
      Australia because of the $ investment required.<br>
      Also for line lengths > 2km ADSL2+ is almost as good.<br>
      <br>
      Bonding ADSL2+ is a lower cost alternative as there is no need for
      new DLSAMs.<br>
      There are a few doing this here already and elsewhere ....<br>
      (i) <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.iinet.net.au/business/medium/internet/bonded-dsl/">http://www.iinet.net.au/business/medium/internet/bonded-dsl/</a><br>
      (ii) <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.fusionbroadband.com.au/">http://www.fusionbroadband.com.au/</a><br>
      (iii) <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sharedband.com">http://www.sharedband.com</a><br>
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      - Guy.<br>
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      On 18/10/2012 6:34 PM, Travis wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CALwuGX73fit8SW8CWg7TZ6f3wikDHajyC_SV5zZah23UT_LEjw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">If we are talking advances to the ADSL/ADSL2+ part of
      the equation it already exists VDSL2<br>
      <br>
      Dont know if it will ever come to Australia in general through.
      (Transact use it in Canberra etc)<br>
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      Travis<br>
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        On 16 October 2012 21:37, Kai <span dir="ltr"><<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au"
            target="_blank">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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          A friend just pointed out something which I was going to ask
          anyway.<br>
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          There are lots of people attached to congested RIM's which
          have fibre backhaul to the exchange, even though the exchange
          is good for ADSL2+ they can't get that speed or throughput
          because:<br>
          a) the RIM itself is congested, cards are full, etc<br>
          b) even if the RIM was handling things nicely, the backhaul is
          congested<br>
          <br>
          Unless the RIM's and their rollout were poorly planned,
          wouldn't it be a fairly simple task of either:<br>
          a) replacing the optics on either end?, or<br>
          b) lighting up another wavelength?<br>
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            ----- Original Message -----<br>
            From: "Jeffrey Sims" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:jeffy@tehintartubes.net">jeffy@tehintartubes.net</a>><br>
            To: "Kai" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>><br>
            Cc: "ausnog" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>
            Sent: Tuesday, 16 October, 2012 3:09:01 PM GMT +10:00
            Brisbane<br>
            Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 4G advances<br>
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          <div class="im HOEnZb">Kai,<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Realistically in my opinion given the investment into NBN
            that I wouldn't see a great large volume investment into
            ADSL2+ connectivity. I know Telstra is still running the
            TOPHAT program to keep people going until NBN but I wouldn't
            expect to see a mass outlay unless it was absolutely
            necessary.<br>
            <br>
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            On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Kai < <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>
            > wrote:<br>
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            <div class="h5">With all the efforts focusing on 4G I wonder
              what advances are being made to ADSL2+ connectivity
              through RIM, etc ?<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/optus-shows-fastest-speeds-in-sydney-4g-test-20121013-27jp7.html"
                target="_blank">http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/optus-shows-fastest-speeds-in-sydney-4g-test-20121013-27jp7.html</a><br>
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