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My understanding is that a 'preservation order' can be put in place
without judicial oversight, but that it is subsequently required to
obtain access to the data. The sentiment of the act seems to be "We
can't get warrants quickly enough and the bad guize are getting away
because of it."<br>
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IMO this is a fallacious argument given the low rates of terrorism,
on-shore "cyber crime" and paedophilia charges/convictions we
observe here. The argument, of course, will be that the law is
intended to protect Australians from evil predators overseas.<br>
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In a country with one of the highest telecommunications interception
rates in the world it's obviously only a matter of time before it's
heavily abused. I don't have the figures in front of me, but the
actual number of orders issued is abso-f....-lutely mind blowing. I
did some back-of-a-napkin calculations once and estimated that,
based on the raw figures, ~ 1% of all Australian citizens had been
the subject of an interception order at one time or another.<br>
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This is particularly concerning given that we semi-regularly observe
governments attempt to retrospectively implement legislation to deal
with perceived offenses. I'd bet my house we see a case where data
is intercepted, a law is retrospectively implemented to deal with a
perceived offense and someone is subsequently charged on the basis
of that data.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/08/12 9:16 AM, Peter Adkins
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<div>Trying to avoid leaping over the bounds of the list charter
here but, the article does not mention which laws were passed. I
think they may be referring to the 'Cybercrime Legislation
Amendment Bill 2011' which passed the senate yesterday*</div>
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<div>From a quick gloss over, it appears to be a set
of amendments to the existing lawful interception obligations as
part of the telecommunication act - among others. The slightly
worrying part is the addition of sections in order to allow
'foreign countries' access to interception capabilities if
certain conditions are met, and the request is approved by the
attorney-general. The amendment specifically mentions that the
capability may be made available even if the foreign country in
question is seeking the death penalty for the perpetrator**.</div>
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<div>This latter part does seems a bit rough...</div>
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* <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zdnet.com/au/cybercrime-bill-passes-senate-set-to-become-law-7000002971/">http://www.zdnet.com/au/cybercrime-bill-passes-senate-set-to-become-law-7000002971/</a> <br>
** Part IIIB / 15D - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2011B00116/Html/Text#_Toc295992947">http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2011B00116/Html/Text#_Toc295992947</a>
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On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Kai <span dir="ltr"><<a
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New law to control cyber data<br>
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target="_blank">http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/new-law-to-control-cyber-data-20120822-24mur.html</a><br>
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Scope creep here we come.<br>
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