I'm sorry, AAPT have abilities? I have spent 3 weeks proving to them that their "QOS/COS" has been stripping our marked routing protocol packets across our ELINE LAN. Causing protocols to flap as heavily as every 90 seconds because the packet gets dropped by their policer. After 3 escalations, they finally looked at the data (2 x Wireshark captures) I did which conclusively proved the packet left tagged and never arrived at the other end or if it did, it had its tagging precedence stripped. In those 3 weeks I had one "Analyst" tell me QOS wasn't at fault, another tell me they had tweaked it and a 3rd tell me they were incorrectly policing our multicast packets. So I don't trust AAPT as far as I can throw them. If Pipe was available in the areas our offices were, I would have pushed heavily to drop AAPT as a supplier in favour of Pipe Networks.<div>
<br></div><div>You ask Pipe for an RFO, you ask AAPT for an RFO, you get a bag full of excuses why they shouldn't do it hoping you'll forget about it and go away.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Steve Smalley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:SSmalley@trimblenetworks.com.au" target="_blank">SSmalley@trimblenetworks.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 2 July 2012 1:15 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>Looks like the leap second caused quite a few problems. Most of the majors are carrying a story on it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>I note in that article that the NSW State of Origin team was caught up in the Qantas delays. When they lose the match this week they can blame it on the leap second.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 2 July 2012 12:49 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:Bevan.Slattery@nextdc.com" target="_blank">Bevan.Slattery@nextdc.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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