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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">How much abuse of your Freedom will it take for you stop apologising for multination companies abusing you?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Would you stop at Enterprise gear?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As an IT admin, I would love if all my Cisco switches, Routers everything were all centrally managed from a pretty Web Interface… do I want to allow Cisco
free reign though my network for it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cisco is “embolden” to just do what ever the f. they want. It helps their cause when people likes you say “</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I'd say tough
luck to the advanced user</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">”
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Security flaws in other vendor gear is not a reason to take over your routers, saying the avg. user is too stupid to manage their own router is a fair point,
but, when do you stop? I’ve had to fix other IT “Professionals” router mistakes all the time… should Cisco anticipate that “professionals” are retarded too and throw mid range business gear to their “cloud”, I mean, some technicians don’t even know IOS…I
know right? Retards!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I can say this, I will NOT be buying new Cisco gear, even for our Datacentre, I’ll go and get crappy 2561XM or 3650 or something to do the job. I’ll buy
a few spare units, (with the saving) so if they die on me, I’ll just replace it, or do fail-over or, whatever…. Maybe I’ll even go Juniper……..how ever you get those things to work o_O<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We are moving to Astaro anyways,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But I will not buy new Cisco’s, 0%
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Layered Networks - Admin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 30 June 2012 3:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Wilkins<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Cisco Pushing 'Cloud Connect' Router Firmware - Allows Web History Tracking<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">A consumer grade product with new consumer orientated features<br>
becoming available.<br>
<br>
I see there are many concerns about security. I'd say tough luck to<br>
the advanced user. Hopefully Cisco has made a step forward in the ease<br>
of use and protecting the average users. The security flaws in common<br>
consumer based gear such as D-Link and Netgear is shocking.<br>
<br>
David.<br>
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On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/06/29/1425210/cisco-pushing-cloud-connect-router-firmware-allows-web-history-tracking">
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/06/29/1425210/cisco-pushing-cloud-connect-router-firmware-allows-web-history-tracking</a><br>
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