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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The new offering will be called “Smart Controls” by the way – Clause 27 of the terms and conditions for data services was added <b><u>today</u></b> (<a href="http://www.telstra.com.au/customer-terms/download/document/dataservices.pdf"><span style='color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'>http://www.telstra.com.au/customer-terms/download/document/dataservices.pdf</span></a>) – similar wording can be found in Part F (Managing Calls) – Clause 16<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Matt Didcoe<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Senior Technical Officer (Communications) | Engineering Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Facilities Management | The University of Western Australia </span><span style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(CRICOS 00126G)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>E: <a href="mailto:matt.didcoe@uwa.edu.au"><span style='color:blue'>matt.didcoe@uwa.edu.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>P: +61 8 6488 5081 M: 0422 889 871<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Moyle-Croft<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 26 June 2012 12:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> James Hutchinson<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It's not clear:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(a) Why this is any better as an explanation?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(b) That this clarifies if this is legal - harvesting information from a telecommunications service AND passing that to a 3rd party offshore seems marginal at best. Certainly as some of these links are not ones that, say, are visible to a search engine or public, and thus aren't that anonymous. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"However, Telstra has since clarified that the activity was conducted ahead of a launch of a voluntary web filtering offering for mobile users."<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Except that this isn't voluntary - this is something that has been turned on without warning, without the ability to opt out.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>MMC<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 26/06/2012, at 2:00 PM, James Hutchinson wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>An update for those interested:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/306441,telstra-tracks-users-to-build-web-filter.aspx">http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/306441,telstra-tracks-users-to-build-web-filter.aspx</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>James Hutchinson</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Journalist</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/">iTnews</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]">[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Shaun Ewing<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, 26 June 2012 9:54 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Aaron Wigley<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>'<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 26/06/2012, at 9:28 AM, Aaron Wigley wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>As of 09:18 AEST, we are still seeing this duplicated clickstream traffic</span></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br><span class=apple-style-span>from</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I've just done a co-ordinated test with Seamus Ryan against two hosts that we respectively control.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If I hit both, there's nothing beyond my initial request.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If Seamus hits both, the request is immediately followed up by a host in Rackspace.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Could it be rolling out based on location? 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