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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I wonder what the impact on battery
      time is on leaving my vpn up all the time. <br>
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      Matt.<br>
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      On 26/06/12 2:49 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:57F18D74-384B-46D1-85FE-B0A04238EBF4@mmc.com.au"
      type="cite"><base href="x-msg://1063/">It's not clear:
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      <div>(a) Why this is any better as an explanation?</div>
      <div>(b) That this clarifies if this is legal - harvesting
        information from a telecommunications service AND passing that
        to a 3rd party offshore seems marginal at best.  Certainly as
        some of these links are not ones that, say, are visible to a
        search engine or public, and thus aren't that anonymous.  </div>
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      <div>"However, Telstra has since clarified that the activity was
        conducted ahead of a launch of a voluntary web filtering
        offering for mobile users."</div>
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      <div>Except that this isn't voluntary - this is something that has
        been turned on without warning, without the ability to opt out.</div>
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      <div>MMC</div>
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          <div>On 26/06/2012, at 2:00 PM, James Hutchinson wrote:</div>
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                    style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                    sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">An update for
                    those interested:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                    sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a
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href="http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/306441,telstra-tracks-users-to-build-web-filter.aspx"
                      style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/306441,telstra-tracks-users-to-build-web-filter.aspx</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                    sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
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                    serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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                      Hutchinson<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        href="http://www.itnews.com.au/" style="color:
                        blue; text-decoration: underline; ">iTnews</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                      serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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                          lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                        style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
                        sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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                          href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
                          style="color: blue; text-decoration:
                          underline; ">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]<span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
                          Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Shaun
                        Ewing<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday,
                        26 June 2012 9:54 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Aaron
                        Wigley<br>
                        <b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'<a
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                          href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
                          style="color: blue; text-decoration:
                          underline; ">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>'<br>
                        <b>Subject:</b><span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                        [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil
                        Stetsun anyone?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                      font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                      serif; ">On 26/06/2012, at 9:28 AM, Aaron Wigley
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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                    <o:p></o:p></div>
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                    serif; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span
                        style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family:
                        Helvetica, sans-serif; ">As of 09:18 AEST, we
                        are still seeing this duplicated clickstream
                        traffic</span></span><span style="font-size:
                      13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><br>
                      <span class="apple-style-span">from</span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                <div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                  margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size:
                  12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div>
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                  <div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm;
                    margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                    font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                    serif; ">I've just done a co-ordinated test with
                    Seamus Ryan against two hosts that we respectively
                    control.<o:p></o:p></div>
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                    font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                    serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div>
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                    margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                    font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                    serif; ">If I hit both, there's nothing beyond my
                    initial request.<o:p></o:p></div>
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                    font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                    serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div>
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                    margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                    font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',
                    serif; ">If Seamus hits both, the request is
                    immediately followed up by a host in Rackspace.<o:p></o:p></div>
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                    serif; ">Could it be rolling out based on location?
                    I'm currently in Alexandria in Sydney.<o:p></o:p></div>
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