Yes nothing like someone not being open and honest to spoil what would otherwise probably be a very benign and reasonable thing to do. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mmc@mmc.com.au" target="_blank">mmc@mmc.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>I can replicate it across APNs as well. Disappointing that they're not honest about what and why they're doing it. Transparency isn't just for HTTP proxying!</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br><div><div><div class="h5"><div>On 25/06/2012, at 9:20 AM, Eric Pinkerton wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div><div class="h5"><div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Ausnoggers..<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Whilst there is a lot of tin foil hattery and other spasticity on this WP Thread,<span> </span><a href="http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1935438" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1935438</a><span> </span>- the questions it throws up have made me curious, esp given Telstra’s official response in the following article “<u></u><u></u></div>
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<a href="http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/305928,telstra-says-its-not-spying-on-users.aspx" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/305928,telstra-says-its-not-spying-on-users.aspx</a><u></u><u></u></div>
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<i>“<span style="background-repeat:initial initial;background-image:initial">But in a short statement, Telstra’s senior media boss Craig Middleton said the company’s wireless network management assured that “there is nothing untoward in what the Whirlpool member has observed -<span> </span><b>it is a normal network operation”<span> </span></b>NOTHING TO SEE HEAR MOVE ALONG.<u></u><u></u></span></i></div>
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<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">In short, if you make a request to a web server on port 80 from a Telstra mobile, you’ll see a request immediately after your legit request from the Telstra gateway that originates from a US IP address hosted at Rackspace.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Legit request..<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">58.163.xxx.xxx - - [24/Jun/2012:23:12:09 +0000] "GET /test101 HTTP/1.1" 404 464 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_1_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9B206 Safari/7534.48.3"<u></u><u></u></span></i></div>
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<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><i><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);background-repeat:initial initial;background-image:initial">Curious identical request follows…<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></div>
<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:36pt;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">50.57.190.97 - - [24/Jun/2012:23:12:09 +0000] "GET /test101 HTTP/1.0" 404 526 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0"</span></i><b><i><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);background-repeat:initial initial;background-image:initial"><u></u><u></u></span></i></b></div>
<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="background-repeat:initial initial;background-image:initial"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="background-repeat:initial initial;background-image:initial">Whilst I accept this is probably benign, and can think of several reasons why the output of such a process might be of value to Telstra, I find myself less convinced than a certain senior media boss seems to be that this is “<i>a normal network operation”.<span> </span></i>To me normal would be to say pull this info straight from the proxy server.<i><u></u><u></u></i></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="background-repeat:initial initial;background-image:initial"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="background-repeat:initial initial;background-image:initial">Also, just to be awkward, I am curious as to why a cloud provider, would be using what looks a lot like a cluster of VPS’s in someone else’s cloud based out of Texas ;-)<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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Also why is there a black helicopter hovering above me?<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
<div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">So many questions….<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Discuss!<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
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