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     Through a 40~ odd minute phone call, I was able to speak to a chap
    in `Level 2 Technical Support`, who has confirmed for me that it is
    a part of Telstra's core system, where they track the websites you
    have visited for bill reporting purposes. <br>
    <br>
     In other words, I confirmed with the chap (I have a reference for
    this call), that he could request billing to show a list of websites
    I have visited and how long I was on those websites.<br>
    <br>
     He informed me that these services hitting the same website is tied
    in with that system.<br>
    <br>
     It doesn't make sense why they would hit the site again as a GET,
    as they could pull this from a transparent proxy, and the purpose of
    scraping the website to gain extra insight about what i'm browsing,
    would suggest they would keep the path/query string instead of just
    hitting the root of the site, to actually see what content I am
    browsing.<br>
    <br>
     I was also informed that I can not opt-out of this occurring, so I
    plan to contact ACCC or TIO in the morning to see what they can tell
    me about the practise (who would you think is better?).<br>
    <br>
    Interesting indeed.<br>
    <br>
    On 25/06/12 3:38 PM, James Nicol wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric,
            you should check this out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-maps-coordinate-tracks-employees-339340095.htm">http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-maps-coordinate-tracks-employees-339340095.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">James<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf
                  Of </b>Eric Pinkerton<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 June 2012 3:30 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Matt Perkins; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser -
                Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">></span>Could
          it be that telstra are passing your browsing history in real
          time to a marketing company who are then looking at the site
          to gather some sort of marking info on the site you were just
          looking at.<br>
          Would explain why they are not looking at there own cache. <span
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            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Last night I
            had a dream.  I dreamed I was walking along the beach with
            the Lord.  Across the sky flashed scenes from my life.  For
            each scene, I noticed three sets of footprints in the sand:
            one belonged to me, one to the Lord, and one to a marketing
            company in the US who was paying Telstra for my exact
            movements in real time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p>Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam
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