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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I find this line of though dangerous.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The Sky Hasn’t fallen, isn’t a valid reason / justification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Do you think they will stop at Interpol blacklist? What about Certain “repulsive” Porn, that’s OK to DNS manipulate right? What about Fringe Group Political
advocating violence? We Want to stop that right? What about… <Insert progressively less ‘dangerous’ topic here><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But it does open the door to censorship, saying it isn’t doesn’t make it not…..(triple negative score!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">When we talk $$, we’re talking about Spikes in traffic and elevating that to investigations. That’s preservation of $$. DNS manipulation will not work, it’s
SO easy to get around, it will be by-passed by the culprits and the innocent will be abused. Sorry to add to a potential flame war, but, this logic infuriates me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Pinkerton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 15 June 2012 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra manipulating DNS to block botnets<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think that as Rod has elegantly demonstrated, simply contacting the registrars dosen’t cut the mustard, any more than Spamhaus et al’s attempts to get ISP’s
to disconnect known spammers have made SPAM disappear in the last decade.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Even in an ideal futuristic utopia where registrars were held to account, spammers will come up with any number of ways to sidestep such controls in minutes,
until such time people stop clicking on links. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So at risk of a good old flaming, I think this is a bold move by Telstra, and actually quite commendable. Also let’s face it they have been ‘tampering with
DNS’ for years now with sponsored adds for nxdomain, and more recently the Interpol blacklist, and to my knowledge the sky hasn’t actually fallen down yet. Some people opted out, perhaps some of them churned but we aren’t all eating soylent green just yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don’t agree that this opens the door to censorship, that door has been off it’s hinges for quite some time, and let’s face it using DNS to effect censorship
is like making suicide illegal to save lives. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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