<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Cheers Carl, and thanks to everyone who turned up !<div><br></div><div>--</div><div>James</div><div><br><div><div><div>On 14/06/2012, at 5:35 PM, Carl wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><div>Great event James..thoroughly enjoyed the experience of watching a Telco make Telco sexy again... Well done<font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font><div><br></div><div>Carl @ mobsource </div><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>Subject: AusNOG Digest, Vol 4, Issue 33 <br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net</a> <br>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a> <br>CC: <br><br><br><div style="word-break:break-all;">Send AusNOG mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:ausnog-owner@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-owner@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of AusNOG digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Vocus Harbour Crossing (Lincoln Dale)<br> 2. Re: Vocus cable photos (Jason Leschnik)<br> 3. Re: Vocus cable photos (Joseph Saxton)<br> 4. Re: Vocus Harbour Crossing (Christopher Pilgrim)<br> 5. Re: Vocus cable photos (Stuart Wilson)<br> 6. Re: Vocus Harbour Crossing (Alex West)<br> 7. Re: Vocus Harbour Crossing (Paul Brooks)<br> 8. Re: Vocus Harbour Crossing (Alex West)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:15:10 +1000<br>From: Lincoln Dale <<a href="mailto:ltd@aristanetworks.com">ltd@aristanetworks.com</a>><br>To: Christopher Pilgrim <<a href="mailto:chris@pilgrim.net.au">chris@pilgrim.net.au</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus Harbour Crossing<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:CAAhBB_BYqhb5eJA1GEgNAcSqeDqHS+EzOtRMqWb1Z4Hvgw2sPA@mail.gmail.com">CAAhBB_BYqhb5eJA1GEgNAcSqeDqHS+EzOtRMqWb1Z4Hvgw2sPA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Christopher Pilgrim<br><<a href="mailto:chris@pilgrim.net.au">chris@pilgrim.net.au</a>>wrote:<br><br>> Measuring the latency across the harbour is hardly relevant.<br><br><br>Dare I suggest it, but the fact that this is being put in by Vocus means<br>that there probably is at least someone with money who think it is relevant.<br><br><br>><br>> The lowest latency between the ASX at Gore Hill and major finance<br>> buildings (say 2 Chifley Sq, Governor Phillip Tower, AMP Building for<br>> example) will always be through the harbour tunnel, and you could even<br>> argue that the lowest latency from the ASX to Global Switch is still via<br>> the bridge by the time you take into account the network either side of the<br>> actual harbour crossing.<br>><br><br>Not sure I follow you. All I'd expect either side of the actual harbour is<br>a splice and no pesky conversion from photons to electrons let alone<br>anything above layer 1.<br><br><br>> There is some demand for low latency circuits between ASX Gore Hill and<br>> Chi-X at Equinix SY1, but as Chi-X currently account for only 2-3% of<br>> trading volume in Australia (at the moment anyway) I'm not sure how much<br>> demand there will actually be.<br>><br><br>Arbitrage is only part of the equation and as you state not as relevant in<br>the Australian industry at this point in time. In reality, arbitrage can't<br>really be that useful in Australia as the rules state that market orders<br>must be met at the lowest price between Chi-X and ASX anyway.<br><br><br>On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Ankur Puri <<a href="mailto:Ankur.Puri@au.ntt.com">Ankur.Puri@au.ntt.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Someone has been reading the news and CommsDay! J<br>><br><br>i hadn't, actually. Just knew the geography and demands of certain<br>customers very very well. :)<br><br><br>cheers,<br><br>lincoln.<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20120614/8caef58d/attachment-0001.html">http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20120614/8caef58d/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:18:12 +1000<br>From: Jason Leschnik <<a href="mailto:leschnik@gmail.com">leschnik@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "Darren Ward (darrward)" <<a href="mailto:darrward@cisco.com">darrward@cisco.com</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus cable photos<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:CAN1XHtd0MaunwhGwE9RkHtZHXOTo710ZLyyR5mRO7XWdEDrTrA@mail.gmail.com">CAN1XHtd0MaunwhGwE9RkHtZHXOTo710ZLyyR5mRO7XWdEDrTrA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Does the bridge itself allow for any infrastructure to be run across it?<br><br>On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Darren Ward (darrward) <<a href="mailto:darrward@cisco.com">darrward@cisco.com</a><br>> wrote:<br><br>> Image 14 on the itNews link backs that one up ;)****<br>><br>> ** **<br>><br>> *From:* <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<br>> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] *On Behalf Of *Lincoln Dale<br>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:58 AM<br>> *To:* David Hughes<br>> *Cc:* <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Vocus cable photos****<br>><br>> ** **<br>><br>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:25 AM, David Hughes <<a href="mailto:David@hughes.com.au">David@hughes.com.au</a>><br>> wrote:****<br>><br>> Awesome stuff James! I wonder if there was a commercial justification<br>> for this or if it was just to get better bandwidth into the Vocus office in<br>> North Sydney :-)****<br>><br>><br>> If I were into betting, my money would be a few folks that care about<br>> every microsecond and want the most direct fiber path from the CBD to a<br>> certain facility in Gore Hill ...****<br>><br>><br>><br>> cheers,<br>><br>> lincoln.****<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AusNOG mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>><br>><br><br><br>-- <br>Regards,<br>Jason Leschnik.<br><br>[m] 0432 35 4224<br>[w@] jason dot leschnik <at> ansto dot gov dot au<<a href="mailto:jason.leschnik@ansto.gov.au">jason.leschnik@ansto.gov.au</a>><br>[U@] <a href="mailto:jml974@uow.edu.au">jml974@uow.edu.au</a><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20120614/f21bd1de/attachment-0001.html">http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20120614/f21bd1de/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:28:07 +1000<br>From: "Joseph Saxton" <<a href="mailto:Joe.Saxton@workforce.com.au">Joe.Saxton@workforce.com.au</a>><br>To: "Jason Leschnik" <<a href="mailto:leschnik@gmail.com">leschnik@gmail.com</a>>, "Darren Ward \(darrward\)"<br> <<a href="mailto:darrward@cisco.com">darrward@cisco.com</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus cable photos<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:4D95065EA54F864D8281FDBC7AA067AD048E0A65@ros002.wforce.com.au">4D95065EA54F864D8281FDBC7AA067AD048E0A65@ros002.wforce.com.au</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>I was thinking the same thing.<br><br> <br><br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Jason Leschnik<br>Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:18<br>To: Darren Ward (darrward)<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus cable photos<br><br> <br><br>Does the bridge itself allow for any infrastructure to be run across it?<br><br>On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Darren Ward (darrward)<br><<a href="mailto:darrward@cisco.com">darrward@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>Image 14 on the itNews link backs that one up ;)<br><br> <br><br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Lincoln Dale<br>Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:58 AM<br>To: David Hughes<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus cable photos<br><br> <br><br>On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:25 AM, David Hughes <<a href="mailto:David@hughes.com.au">David@hughes.com.au</a>><br>wrote:<br><br> Awesome stuff James! I wonder if there was a commercial<br>justification for this or if it was just to get better bandwidth into<br>the Vocus office in North Sydney :-)<br><br><br>If I were into betting, my money would be a few folks that care about<br>every microsecond and want the most direct fiber path from the CBD to a<br>certain facility in Gore Hill ...<br><br><br><br>cheers,<br><br>lincoln.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Regards,<br>Jason Leschnik.<br><br>[m] 0432 35 4224<br><br>[w@] jason dot leschnik <at> ansto dot gov dot au<br><mailto:jason.leschnik@ansto.gov.au> <br><br>[U@] jml974@uow.edu.au<br><br> <br><br> <br><br><br>__________________________________________________________________________________________<br>Note:<br>This message is for the named person's use only. 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All I'd expect either side of the actual harbour<br>> is a splice and no pesky conversion from photons to electrons let alone<br>> anything above layer 1.<br>><br><br>Correct - so where you pull your cable up from the harbour, and the path it<br>takes back into the broader network compared to alternate paths, is<br>completely relevant. You may have a short path across the harbour, but if<br>the cable has to run another 600 meters in an indirect path either side to<br>get back to the nearest joint, it adds latency (not saying this is the<br>case, by the way).<br><br>><br>><br>>> There is some demand for low latency circuits between ASX Gore Hill and<br>>> Chi-X at Equinix SY1, but as Chi-X currently account for only 2-3% of<br>>> trading volume in Australia (at the moment anyway) I'm not sure how much<br>>> demand there will actually be.<br>>><br>><br>> Arbitrage is only part of the equation and as you state not as relevant in<br>> the Australian industry at this point in time. In reality, arbitrage can't<br>> really be that useful in Australia as the rules state that market orders<br>> must be met at the lowest price between Chi-X and ASX anyway.<br>><br><br>Agree. hence limited demand for low latency services between ASX and Chi-X.<br>The only real demand at the moment is low latency to the ASX, and those<br>that want that will simply telehouse at the ASX's facility and connect<br>directly to the market. That said, the rules are changing all the time as<br>ASIC get more comfortable with the whole dual market arrangement.<br><br>><br>><br>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Ankur Puri <<a href="mailto:Ankur.Puri@au.ntt.com">Ankur.Puri@au.ntt.com</a>>wrote:<br>><br>>> Someone has been reading the news and CommsDay! J<br>>><br>><br>> i hadn't, actually. Just knew the geography and demands of certain<br>> customers very very well. :)<br>><br>><br>> cheers,<br>><br>> lincoln.<br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20120614/5ee00995/attachment-0001.html">http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20120614/5ee00995/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:29:38 +0000<br>From: Stuart Wilson <<a href="mailto:stuart@endace.com">stuart@endace.com</a>><br>To: Lincoln Dale <<a href="mailto:ltd@aristanetworks.com">ltd@aristanetworks.com</a>>, David Hughes<br> <<a href="mailto:David@hughes.com.au">David@hughes.com.au</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus cable photos<br>Message-ID: <CBFFA012.7C723%stuart@endace.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Interesting.<br><br>We worked with several HFT (High Frequency Traders) in the US and they will "sell their grandmothers left arm for a uSec". It turns out that in the HFT world, speed of transaction is much more significant than trading algorithm, and a uSec counts.<br><br>Spread Networks <a href="http://www.spreadnetworks.com">www.spreadnetworks.com</a> setup a direct cable run between NYC and Chicago, spent a fortune on the installation (reportedly US$300m) which was a dedicated trench (literally) as line of sight rather than tracing all the small POPs in a zig-zag, 825 fibre miles, 13.1 mSec, shaving a (reputedly) 1.5 mSec off the flight time.<br><br>Also, take a look at McKay <a href="http://www.mckay-brothers.com">www.mckay-brothers.com</a> who are proposing a microwave path (air is twice as fast as glass). Has anyone starting setting up dedicated uWave across the harbor yet ?<br><br>The HFT guys will drive some interesting behavior in the Australian carrier market.<br><br><a href="mailto:Stuart@endace.com">Stuart@endace.com</a><br><br>From: Lincoln Dale <ltd@aristanetworks.com<mailto:ltd@aristanetworks.com>><br>Date: Thursday, 14 June 2012 1:57 PM<br>To: David Hughes <David@hughes.com.au<mailto:David@hughes.com.au>><br>Cc: <ausnog@ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net>><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus cable photos<br><br>On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:25 AM, David Hughes <David@hughes.com.au<mailto:David@hughes.com.au>> wrote:<br>Awesome stuff James! I wonder if there was a commercial justification for this or if it was just to get better bandwidth into the Vocus office in North Sydney :-)<br><br>If I were into betting, my money would be a few folks that care about every microsecond and want the most direct fiber path from the CBD to a certain facility in Gore Hill ...<br><br><br>cheers,<br><br>lincoln.<br><br>power to see all<br><br>This email (including any attachments) is intended to be read by the named recipient(s) only. If the email wasn't addressed to you, you mustn't use, distribute or copy any part of it. If you've received it in error please delete it (along with any attachments) and inform us of the error. Emails aren't secure and can't be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed. It's your responsibility to check this email and any attachments for viruses. These risks are deemed accepted by everyone that communicates with us by email.<br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20120614/40d15622/attachment-0001.html><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:45:04 +1000<br>From: Alex West <alex.west@vocus.com.au><br>To: Christopher Pilgrim <chris@pilgrim.net.au><br>Cc: "ausnog@ausnog.net" <ausnog@ausnog.net><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus Harbour Crossing<br>Message-ID: <4BC73F92-0B48-42A9-8DFE-CE0FB590EE7D@vocus.com.au><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Chris,<br><br>The network either side of the Harbour leaves and arrives at the same point along the , however the underwater section heads directly across the harbour and doesn't double back to get up onto the bridge.<br><br>Also it would be a very weak argument to say that the tunnel was <br><br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>On 14/06/2012, at 12:04 PM, Christopher Pilgrim <chris@pilgrim.net.au> wrote:<br><br>> Measuring the latency across the harbour is hardly relevant.<br>> <br>> The lowest latency between the ASX at Gore Hill and major finance buildings (say 2 Chifley Sq, Governor Phillip Tower, AMP Building for example) will always be through the harbour tunnel, and you could even argue that the lowest latency from the ASX to Global Switch is still via the bridge by the time you take into account the network either side of the actual harbour crossing.<br>> <br>> There is some demand for low latency circuits between ASX Gore Hill and Chi-X at Equinix SY1, but as Chi-X currently account for only 2-3% of trading volume in Australia (at the moment anyway) I'm not sure how much demand there will actually be.<br>> <br>> That said, good work - can't wait to see the actual specs once it's connected up.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:57 AM, James Spenceley <james@vocus.com.au> wrote:<br>> Noggers,<br>> <br>> As you may or may not be aware, Vocus is running a fibre cable (literally) across Sydney Harbour tomorrow. We are throwing an event at Ripples restaurant at Milson's point which will have a great view of the cable ship and divers as well as being about 20 meters from where the cable comes ashore. <br>> <br>> We've got 5 spots for Noggers for the lunch, If you'd like to come first in best dressed with an email back to me :-)<br>> <br>> Cheers,<br>> <br>> --<br>> James<br>> <br>> <Vocus_Harbour_Crossing_Invitation_Small.jpeg><br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AusNOG mailing list<br>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AusNOG mailing list<br>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20120614/b8466107/attachment-0001.html><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 7<br>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:48:13 +1000<br>From: Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au><br>To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus Harbour Crossing<br>Message-ID: <4FD950ED.2070805@layer10.com.au><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>On 14/06/2012 12:04 PM, Christopher Pilgrim wrote:<br>> Measuring the latency across the harbour is hardly relevant.<br>><br>> The lowest latency between the ASX at Gore Hill and major finance buildings (say 2<br>> Chifley Sq, Governor Phillip Tower, AMP Building for example) will always be through<br>> the harbour tunnel, and you could even argue that the lowest latency from the ASX to<br>> Global Switch is still via the bridge by the time you take into account the network<br>> either side of the actual harbour crossing.<br><br>Actually, the lowest latency between the CBD and Gore Hill is surely by microwave,<br>with the signals travelling 50% faster through air than light-in-glass!><br>In any case its a cool initiative, providing a redundant link to the existing cable<br>through the Harbour Tunnel.<br><br>Congratulations James and Alex, and thanks for the photos.<br><br>Paul.<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:52:12 +1000<br>From: Alex West <alex.west@vocus.com.au><br>To: Alex West <alex.west@vocus.com.au><br>Cc: "ausnog@ausnog.net" <ausnog@ausnog.net><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Vocus Harbour Crossing<br>Message-ID: <F827F644-4DE9-4C9D-B2E8-E86AC052B15A@vocus.com.au><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Continuing on.<br><br>The tunnel would be a longer path from global switch once you have to traverse the CBD to get the the start point. <br><br><br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>On 14/06/2012, at 12:45 PM, Alex West <alex.west@vocus.com.au> wrote:<br><br>> Chris,<br>> <br>> The network either side of the Harbour leaves and arrives at the same point along the , however the underwater section heads directly across the harbour and doesn't double back to get up onto the bridge.<br>> <br>> Also it would be a very weak argument to say that the tunnel was <br>> <br>> <br>> Sent from my iPhone<br>> <br>> On 14/06/2012, at 12:04 PM, Christopher Pilgrim <chris@pilgrim.net.au> wrote:<br>> <br>>> Measuring the latency across the harbour is hardly relevant.<br>>> <br>>> The lowest latency between the ASX at Gore Hill and major finance buildings (say 2 Chifley Sq, Governor Phillip Tower, AMP Building for example) will always be through the harbour tunnel, and you could even argue that the lowest latency from the ASX to Global Switch is still via the bridge by the time you take into account the network either side of the actual harbour crossing.<br>>> <br>>> There is some demand for low latency circuits between ASX Gore Hill and Chi-X at Equinix SY1, but as Chi-X currently account for only 2-3% of trading volume in Australia (at the moment anyway) I'm not sure how much demand there will actually be.<br>>> <br>>> That said, good work - can't wait to see the actual specs once it's connected up.<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:57 AM, James Spenceley <james@vocus.com.au> wrote:<br>>> Noggers,<br>>> <br>>> As you may or may not be aware, Vocus is running a fibre cable (literally) across Sydney Harbour tomorrow. We are throwing an event at Ripples restaurant at Milson's point which will have a great view of the cable ship and divers as well as being about 20 meters from where the cable comes ashore. <br>>> <br>>> We've got 5 spots for Noggers for the lunch, If you'd like to come first in best dressed with an email back to me :-)<br>>> <br>>> Cheers,<br>>> <br>>> --<br>>> James<br>>> <br>>> <Vocus_Harbour_Crossing_Invitation_Small.jpeg><br>>> <br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> AusNOG mailing list<br>>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> AusNOG mailing list<br>>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AusNOG mailing list<br>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20120614/78ecbc43/attachment.html><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br><br><br>End of AusNOG Digest, Vol 4, Issue 33<br>*************************************<br></div>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>