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<font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Bandwidth almost always
depreciates in value making it a bit of an odd choice for
derivitives trading. I mean, who would be the counterparty and
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On 29/05/2012 8:41 PM, Bevan Slattery wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Read the third paragraph down on how "bandwidth derivatives trading" can
be interesting fun! :)
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://books.google.com.au/books?id=VzAfWR86_FYC&lpg=PA13&ots=IxO-Y46Z9V&dq">http://books.google.com.au/books?id=VzAfWR86_FYC&lpg=PA13&ots=IxO-Y46Z9V&dq</a>
=enron%20used%20bandwidth%20qwest%20mark%20to%20market&pg=PA13#v=onepage&q=
enron%20used%20bandwidth%20qwest%20mark%20to%20market&f=false
And James if you have an Enron document I'd love to get a copy for
old-times-sake :)
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On 29/05/12 8:24 PM, "Bevan Slattery" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Bevan.Slattery@nextdc.com"><Bevan.Slattery@nextdc.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Sorry Carl. I think you are I are on slightly the different wavelength :)
The special notation included in the original posters line before is
"derivative". Not normal product or service, but "bandwidth derivative
trading" i.e. derivative/futures contract in which you actually don't buy
and sell the product, but a derivation thereof. Bandwidth deriviatives
markets (excluding basic future contracts) are generally the dream of
financial engineers all but snuffed out in 2001.
Bandwidth buy/sell exchanges are typically a market where people buy/sell
excess capacity, the prime product for their own use. Not for some
derivation thereof.
Sorry if my response created some confusion.
Cheers
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PS: And yes I was jet lagged for the second time in my life at ITW :)
On 29/05/12 4:15 PM, "carl gough [mobsource]" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:carl@mobsource.com"><carl@mobsource.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Bevan, You and ted must of been totally jetlagged at ITW. Did you not see
the resurgence? Bandwidth Trading is not a new concept, but to make it
work effectively it will have to address a couple of prerequisites to be
successful. A network of buyers and sellers has to be created, contracted
and connected for instant pricing, inventory management and delivery of a
defined and standardised service. The market "is" now mature enough to
offer such a service
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 05:17:42 +0000
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To: Paul Wilkins <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com"><paulwilkins369@gmail.com></a>, Oliver Eyre
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] bandwidth trading
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<pre wrap="">I look forward to bandwidth derivatives trading.
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Think Enron. They did bandwidth trading (including derivatives inc.
mark-to-market) before their implosion. Check out "Smartest Guys in the
Room". Great doco.
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