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    Optus door to door recently have been saying they are "upgrading the
    telephone lines" in an area as a premise for getting people to sign
    up to HFC.<br>
    <br>
    If somebody signs up under that, when the rep knows its false isn't
    that out and out fraud?<br>
    If the police started prosecuting these people for criminal fraud I
    imagine it'd go away pretty quickly and shouldn't require too much
    work on behalf of the police to get slam dunk convictions. Ok they
    are low range but still, gives the rookies a chance to run through
    the system.<br>
    <br>
    get a copy of optus/whoever training materials, after they do a
    door2door in an area, get the new recruits to door knock and ask
    what happened. Collect statements, send 10 door2doors to jail and
    then try and bust optus on organised crime for allowing it to
    continue.<br>
    <br>
    I don't have a problem with door to door sales, In the 5 years I
    have been living in my present house the only people who haven't
    started the conversation with a bold faced lie are real estate
    agents and god botherers, when a realestate agent is more honest
    than your reps you really should do something about it.<br>
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    On 10/05/12 11:33, Matt Taylor wrote:
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      Well, the market is pretty much churn these days compared to new
      sales, so it wouldn't surprise me if anything is said to land the
      sale.<br>
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      It's always been the case even with other providers such as Optus
      saying stuff like this. Sales staff (and customers) have little to
      no knowledge when it comes to DSL, cable distance and attenuation
      so flashy words like "faster speeds" would be quite attractive. <br>
      <br>
      With ACCC, perhaps it would be ideal but it could come back saying
      as the individual staff member required more training?<br>
      <br>
      Cheers,<br>
      Matt Taylor.<br>
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      On 10/05/2012 11:29 AM, Christopher Pollock wrote:
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cite="mid:CAK6biYgiTyZ_H9sz12_Z1rr-bBxgG8qmvwML3DDjkGo2QJWzzA@mail.gmail.com"
        type="cite">This isn't new is it?  If I remember the days when I
        could stomach WP correctly, Telstra CSRs have been saying for
        years that Telstra would be faster because of $reasons.
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          <div>Perhaps someone should be recording these things and
            ACCC-ing them.</div>
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            --<br>
            Christopher Pollock,<br>
            io Networks Pty Ltd.
            <div>e. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              p. 1300 1 2 4 8 16</div>
            <div>d. 07 3188 7588</div>
            <div> m. 0410 747 765</div>
            <div>skype: christopherpollock</div>
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                In-house, Outsourced.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:19 AM,
              Sam <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:samantha@smellyblackdog.com.au"
                  target="_blank">samantha@smellyblackdog.com.au</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">We had a loss of a customer
                      today who when I asked why they churned away, gave
                      me the following response</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The

                        data limit is the same, <span
                          style="background:yellow">but the salesperson
                          claims that the internet speed will be quicker
                          as the Telstra exchange (only for their
                          customers apparently) is closer to my house</span>.</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">So is this a new ploy by
                      Telstra to make such  statements?  <span
                        class="HOEnZb"></span></p>
                    <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Sam</p>
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