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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My 2c<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not sure that PIPE IX cost indication is accurate for 2012 - they have taken current market transit pricing into account recently so its still a good value proposition, expecially considering the throughput seen from the large peering ISP member base.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Marcus<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 28 March 2012 1:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Hughes<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Victorian Peering Point<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I'm interested in what they have to offer.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As you know we advise many ISPs on what to do, how they connect, who to peer with, where to buy, and it helps us give better advice if we know all the offerings that are available. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The reason I also reply-all is that the information would also be useful to the overall community.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I like that these guys are an alternate to the existing peering options such as Pipe (not Equinix as they aren't in Sydney yet).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>While Pipe is good, its value proposition is far less than it was several years ago when transit pricing was in the $200-$300+ range... with transit being able to be purchased for $30 or less in some cases, the $10/mb-100mb, or $3/mb-1G, while it isn't bad... it isn't as valuable as it once was.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>...Skeeve<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>eintellego Pty Ltd</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellego.net</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellego.net" target="_blank">www.eintellego.net</a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellego" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellego</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank">twitter.com/networkceoau</a> ; <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>PO Box 7726, Baulkham Hills, NSW 1755 Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://eintellego.net/sig/logo.png"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F'>The Experts Who The Experts Call</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060'>Juniper - Cisco – Brocade - IBM</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 13:30, David Hughes <<a href="mailto:David@hughes.com.au">David@hughes.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>On 28/03/2012, at 11:52 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br><br>> Perhaps give us an overview of the network, any<br>> intercap connections and so on.<br><br>So are you looking for peering or transit / backhaul? Very different propositions and blurring the 2 can be disastrous (remember AusBONE anyone?).<br><br><br>David<br>...<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>