See my other email Paul.<div><br></div><div>Can a machine do trespass? Can a machine do theft?</div><div><br></div><div>Common law would hardly apply in many potential scenarios regarding this issue where use was unintended, but perhaps automatic.<br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 16:49, Paul Wallace <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au">paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">It’s called trespass followed by theft!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Old old common law<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Paul<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Saxton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 23, 2012 3:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jarrod Hassell; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1f497d">I don’t agree. If its an open network without any sort of authentication then you’re not breaking any rules. If you remember when telstra’s customer details was somehow available to the public internet due to poor security. There was no sort of login/authtication system that protects that information. Therefore the users who accessed that data shouldn’t be in trouble. Nothing is stopping them it’s just freely available on google. its telstra’s fault for not implementing correct security.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1f497d">So if a user access’s an open network that has no authentication or any sort of security then I don’t believe it is illegal. Its open, therefore people can access it. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jarrod Hassell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 23 March 2012 16:11<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-AU">If they actually connect to the AP without permission, could that be classed as QPS hacking?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p>
<span lang="EN-AU"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU">Regardless of whether it's secure or not, unauthorised access to computer systems is illegal, yes?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-AU"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-AU">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-AU">Jarrod Hassell | Product Development Manager<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-AU">PACNET<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-AU">Tel: +61.3.9674.7506<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sean K. Finn<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 23 March 2012 10:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> '<a href="mailto:Ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">Ausnog@ausnog.net</a>'<br><b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/police-to-cruise-streets-for-unsecured-wifi-20120322-1vmof.html" target="_blank">http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/police-to-cruise-streets-for-unsecured-wifi-20120322-1vmof.html</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“The project was <a href="http://qpsmedia.govspace.gov.au/2012/03/22/war-driving-project-to-help-prevent-identity-theft/" target="_blank"><b>officially launched yesterday</b></a> to coincide with National Consumer Fraud Week.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Officers in the Hi Tech Crime Investigation Unit on wardriving missions will drive the streets of Brisbane with a laptop computer, looking for unsecured Wi-Fi networks.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
Residents and businesses owners in targeted areas will then be mailed information about how to effectively secure their connection.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Police will return to the area some time later to check whether residents have taken heed of the warning.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>Read more: <a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/police-to-cruise-streets-for-unsecured-wifi-20120322-1vmof.html#ixzz1ptOph04u" target="_blank">http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/police-to-cruise-streets-for-unsecured-wifi-20120322-1vmof.html#ixzz1ptOph04u</a>”<u></u><u></u></p>
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