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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That’s the point, the number has to be verified from a reliable source. This is what I do and recommend. It is just bad practice though for organisations to be giving out numbers that aren’t listed anywhere in a legitimate contact scenario. What could be a 15 second lookup ends up instead of calling into an IVR picking an invalid option waiting in a queue to speak to someone explain what you are talking about being on hold and then transferred.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>Cheers,<br><br>Nick.<br><br>-------------------------------------------------------<br>Nick Savvides<br>Senior Principal Systems Engineer,<br>Asia-Pacific & Japan<br><a href="mailto:nick_savvides@symantec.com">nick_savvides@symantec.com</a><br>Mobile: +61 434 600 870<br>Phone: +61 3 9674 5543<br>Fax: +61 3 9674 5574<br><br>Symantec<br>134 Moray Street<br>South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Louis Robertson [mailto:lour@internode.on.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:00<br><b>To:</b> Nick Savvides<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Off Topic - Identity Theft & Fraud in Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Calling back the number they provide doesn't add any level of assurance. I will always call a listed company line [and ask to be transferred if required]. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Nick Savvides <<a href="mailto:Nick_Savvides@symantec.com">Nick_Savvides@symantec.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What is interesting is the number of times you are given a number to call back on that is not verifiable in a 3<sup>rd</sup> party directory on the legitimate website of the purported company. This can often be legitimate but is bad practice.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>Cheers,<br><br>Nick.<br><br>-------------------------------------------------------<br>Nick Savvides<br>Senior Principal Systems Engineer,<br>Asia-Pacific & Japan<br><a href="mailto:nick_savvides@symantec.com" target="_blank">nick_savvides@symantec.com</a><br>Mobile: <a href="tel:%2B61%20434%20600%20870" target="_blank">+61 434 600 870</a><br>Phone: <a href="tel:%2B61%203%209674%205543" target="_blank">+61 3 9674 5543</a><br>Fax: <a href="tel:%2B61%203%209674%205574" target="_blank">+61 3 9674 5574</a><br><br>Symantec<br>134 Moray Street<br>South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Oliver Sebastian<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:12<br><b>To:</b> Christopher Pollock; <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Off Topic - Identity Theft & Fraud in Australia<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If any organisation call me asking for my personal information, I always ask for a number to call them back on.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It amazes me that people still get caught out with giving away personal information…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2A6EBB'>Oliver Sebastian</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2A6EBB'> | IT Infrastructure Manager</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#777777'>T: <a href="tel:%2B61%202%208295%201058" target="_blank">+61 2 8295 1058</a><br>F: <a href="tel:%2B61%202%208908%204090" target="_blank">+61 2 8908 4090</a><br>M: <a href="tel:0449%20104%20560" target="_blank">0449 104 560</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#777777'>W: <a href="http://www.charterhall.com.au/" target="_blank">www.charterhall.com.au</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#777777'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#777777'><img border=0 width=189 height=83 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01CD069A.15F65D90" alt="Description: C:\Users\oliver.sebastian.CHARTERHALL\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Signatures\CH_Standard_files\image001.png"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christopher Pollock<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Off Topic - Identity Theft & Fraud in Australia</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I think the only really odd thing is that it kind of reads like spam, as in how it was written.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>But, I appreciated the info. With the number of things we sign up to and the number of banks that feel totally comfortable ringing you from a private number and asking for your name and DOB, identity theft is of moderate concern to me and I didn't know that service existed.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>--<br>Christopher Pollock,<br>io Networks Pty Ltd.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>e. <a href="mailto:chris@ionetworks.com.au" target="_blank">chris@ionetworks.com.au</a><br>p. <a href="tel:1300%201%202%204%208%2016" target="_blank">1300 1 2 4 8 16</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>d. <a href="tel:07%203188%207588" target="_blank">07 3188 7588</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>m. <a href="tel:0410%20747%20765" target="_blank">0410 747 765</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>skype: christopherpollock<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.ionetworks.com.au" target="_blank">http://www.ionetworks.com.au</a><br>In-house, Outsourced.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Matt Taylor <<a href="mailto:matt@mt.au.com" target="_blank">matt@mt.au.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yeah, I was thinking the same thing too.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br><br>On 19/03/2012 7:54 PM, Noel Butler wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Seems the anti spam system on this list server needs updating.<br><br><br>On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 14:39 +1100, Scott Graham wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Hi Noggers,</span><br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt'> </span><br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>I just wanted to inform you all of some activity in Australia I have had happen within the last week.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><spam removed><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>==== Charter Hall ========================<br>This e-mail message and any accompanying attachments may contain information that is confidential and subject to legal privilege. 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