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I reckon once customers can actually get V6 and websites start
supporting it, we'll see all the dodgy IPv4 hacks, (carrier nat etc)
still happen so they can maintain IPv4 connectivity and around that
point they will just say, we "support" the IPv6 interweb. What's
that you're having problems with "insert old computer game" or
"magic productivity application" I guess they are too old, they are
unsupported using that old standard, ipv6 has been around for a
decade now don't you know?<br>
<br>
Telstra(bigpond?) has been using private address ranges on its 3G
Internet for a while plays merry hell with VPN's when the private ip
telstra allocates sits inside the range of the VPN target.<br>
<br>
On 03/14/2012 03:13 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
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cite="mid:CAEUfUGM+FrS4btsARa8_KF+p1cvAaXEes5jwyF9qOmTrR98MNg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Mark,
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<div>At no point did I suggest that anyone turn off IPv4 -
probably ever. If you think that, then you sadly misunderstood
my email. We will be living in a dual stack world for a long
time before people put a bullet in ipv4.</div>
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<div>My email's point was that you have to do IPv6 as well as
IPv4. Was I really that unclear?</div>
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<div>FYI: </div>
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<div>On the 6th of June 2012, less than 3 months from now,
Facebook, Cisco, Google, Microsoft Bing, Yahoo, Akamai and many
others have pledged to turn on IPv6 on their primary sites
(www.) permanently - leaving it on, after the successful trial
of IPv6 Day last year.</div>
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<div>See: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.worldipv6launch.org/">http://www.worldipv6launch.org/</a></div>
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<div>...Skeeve</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:52, Mark
Delany <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:g2x@juliet.emu.st">g2x@juliet.emu.st</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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> But, it will take most ISPs a year or two to fully
integrate IPv6 into<br>
> their networks, and those who haven't started doing it
yet, might as well<br>
> be planning to shut down their businesses because in
the next year or two,<br>
> it will be too late...<br>
<br>
Really? In which decade do you think that <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://facebook.com"
target="_blank">facebook.com</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://yahoo.com"
target="_blank">yahoo.com</a>,<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://twitter.com"
target="_blank">twitter.com</a> and <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com"
target="_blank">google.com</a> will stop returning an A
RR? And what is<br>
their incentive for doing so?<br>
<br>
You need to explain why a business would voluntarily stop
listening to<br>
IPv4 traffic and why ISPs would stop carrying it.<br>
<br>
If you have no explanation for that, then what has any ISP
got to lose<br>
by just carrying IPv4? After all, it gets to everywhere and
probably<br>
will do so for a very long time into the future.<br>
<br>
The big problem is that turning off IPv4 has no value-add
and turning<br>
on IPv6 has no value-add, so no one cares to do either.
Ergo,<br>
IPv4-only systems will continue to work for the foreseeable<br>
future. That means there is zero imperative to support IPv6.<br>
<br>
I'll be proved wrong when any major website discards their A
RR web<br>
site and only advertise an AAAA web-site. Any volunteers?
Apnic? Arin?<br>
ICANN? <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://eintellego.net" target="_blank">eintellego.net</a>?
Jut curious. If IPv6 is such a hit, when do you<br>
guys plan to drop your IPv4 RR?<br>
<br>
<br>
Mark.<br>
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