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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Who knows whether IPv4 will exist in the next decade. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Back during the days of IBM Bill gates quoted “640K ought to be enough for anybody.” <a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/bill_gates.html">http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/bill_gates.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A decade later people now store 640GB of data. (not saying everyone).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christopher Pollock<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:49<br><b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Getting there from here (was: Re: My Predictions for the ISP Industry)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> I don't for one second believe ipv4 will even look like being vanished for another decade or more.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't believe anyone is saying that it will.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all>--<br>Christopher Pollock,<br>io Networks Pty Ltd.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>e. <a href="mailto:chris@ionetworks.com.au" target="_blank">chris@ionetworks.com.au</a><br>p. 1300 1 2 4 8 16<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>d. 07 3188 7588<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>m. 0410 747 765<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>skype: christopherpollock<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.ionetworks.com.au" target="_blank">http://www.ionetworks.com.au</a><br>In-house, Outsourced.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Noel Butler <<a href="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net">noel.butler@ausics.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 12:18 +1030, Mark Newton wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><pre>On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:44:40AM +1000, Noel Butler wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> > > Really? In which decade do you think that <a href="http://facebook.com" target="_blank">facebook.com</a>, <a href="http://yahoo.com" target="_blank">yahoo.com</a>,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> > > <a href="http://twitter.com" target="_blank">twitter.com</a> and <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> will stop returning an A RR? And what is<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> > > their incentive for doing so?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> > > You need to explain why a business would voluntarily stop listening to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> > > IPv4 traffic and why ISPs would stop carrying it.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> > <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> > +1 <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> > The whole world is not going to start using ipv6 overnight just<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> > because .au is out of ipv4, let alone turn off ipv4,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I'm a little bit bothered that ISP professionals in 2012 seem to <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>seriously believe that an IPv6 deployment involves disabling IPv4.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>How widespread is this misbelief?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I'd fully expect that legacy IPv4 will stick around for the <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>forseeable future. It'll suck, and be heavily multi-NATted, and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>fewer and fewer people will use it; But it isn't going away for<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>quite a while.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>My point was Mark, once we run out of ipv4, long before the rest of the world, and end users here can only be issued with ipv6, with the majority of the world not using ipv6, it will be a lonely place, unless ISP's configure kinda like nat 6 to 4 since 4 is the dominant. <br>I don't for one second believe ipv4 will even look like being vanished for another decade or more.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div>
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