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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">/Agree<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Now let’s get the jurnos to understand that and to pass that onto the public,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Spenceley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 24 February 2012 11:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sean K. Finn<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'ausnog@ausnog.net'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] International link issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well said Sean.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If anyone thinks this is Dodo's fault, think again. Customers make configuration errors like this regularly. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I understand Telstra's position in some cases, to prefix filter us is something like 2500 entires with lots of updates, that can be hard to maintain, *at a prefix level*<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Telstra not having a generic AS-PATH or even max-prefix put the fault entirely with Telstra. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 24/02/2012, at 11:29 AM, Sean K. Finn wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Telstra should have had an Inbound route filter in any case.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(Both an AS Path filter, and a prefix-list filter).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The amount of people I’ve seen TRYING to advertise 0.0.0.0/0 over an IX, or even leaking private address space into carrier links, is common place.
Thankfully most carriers don’t trust their clients advertisments by default.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">PIPE IX have a fairly complex (but not complicated) portal to use to ensure that your AS PATH LIST and PREFIX LISTS are added to their server manually
before adding them to their route filters.Even better, every day there’s a mailout with the filters that you can put on your OWN routers to match their routers, just-in-case.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ve seen some providers be extremely strict on even the manual ranges that get added to portals, checking each and every IP assignment to ensure
that I’m allowed to advertise the ranges, and AS’s, in question. (And in some cases making me jump through silly hurdles to PROVE it).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The very definition of UPSTREAM means it’s their responsibility to not trust the DOWNSTREAM.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Fair enough, Dodo had to leak the routes, and Telstra had to accept them, there was a mutual mis-configuration, that part is self evident.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It’s easy enough to make the mistake.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">S</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Aaron Swayn<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 24, 2012 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [AusNOG] International link issue</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think the spin was from Dodo to blame the vendor, but me thinks the fault went down something like this…</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dodo
engineer troubleshooting BGP advertisement issue</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can’t
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Removed
outbound route filter from BGP session to Telstra to see if that fixes the problem</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And we know the rest…</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Evan Weston<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, 24 February 2012 10:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [AusNOG] International link issue</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nice spin from Telstra. Blame the hardware vendor, blame the customer but never admit that it was actually *<b>our fault</b>* for not filtering properly.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]">[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Will Tardy<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, 24 February 2012 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [AusNOG] International link issue</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Telstra claims they had an international link down:<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">If that happened at the same time as DODO incorrectly sending Telstra the full BGP table, could that explain why Telstra black-holed all-routes plus pumped all of it's own traffic via dodo?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What I'm yet to understand about this outage is why DODO's AS_PATH was seen as shorter than anything Telstra already had.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Technical Consultant Team Lead<br>
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T:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:%2B61%202%209657%207460" target="_blank">+61 2 9657 7460</a><br>
M:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:%2B61%20%280%29%20400%20192%20485" target="_blank">+61 (0) 400 192 485</a><br>
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<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:20:41 -0800<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [AusNOG] International link issue</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Sean K. Finn<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:'ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">'ausnog@ausnog.net</a>'<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [AusNOG] International link issue</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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