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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wonder in “priority assist” will continue under nbn?<br>So therefor who pays for the battery backup facility and who is responsible?<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sam<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Smelly Black Dog<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brendan Baker<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 11 October 2011 7:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> simon thomason<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN Battery backups<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Not the one I saw originally, but <a href="http://www.nbntasmania.com.au/assets/283/NBNT1829%20NBN%20UPS%20Brochure.pdf">http://www.nbntasmania.com.au/assets/283/NBNT1829%20NBN%20UPS%20Brochure.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"<span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Gotham","serif";color:#262626'>It is your responsibility as the property owner or occupier to purchase, install, charge and maintain the battery</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Gotham","serif";color:#262626'>in this power system and regularly check the battery indicators.""</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Gotham","serif";color:#262626'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/10/2011, at 7:51 PM, simon thomason wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I would not mind seeing this if you could find it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Does anyone happen to have a doco on the UPS at all?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/10/2011, at 7:18 PM, Brendan Baker wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I camt find it currently. But there are published instructions for customers of how to change the battery and when. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 11/10/2011, at 18:30, Adam Brotherson <<a href="mailto:domske@gmail.com">domske@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Isn't it just a battery that gets stuck in the side of the NTU? Like the $10-20 kind you would get from Dick Smith. Similar to the battery that would go in ones cordless phone. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Adam<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Solly, Matthew <<a href="mailto:matt@mtt.me">matt@mtt.me</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't see how passing the responsibility to the RSPs would work unless the RSPs were allowed to charge for the UPS in a rental fashion. I think the UPS should be a "premium" service of sorts. Perhaps the RSPs could rent the UPS to users, with this cost subsidised to those where the phone line is a mission critical service (severely ill people, etc…). That would be one way to ensure the UPS was maintained. <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Matt<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/10/2011, at 6:49 PM, Tom Wright wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Err more interesting is how on earth is passing the responsibility onto the RSPs supposed to work? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What happens when there are two or more RSPs involved; who is responsible and who pays?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Sounds like something that's currently half baked...<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- Tom<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 11/10/2011, at 5:57 PM, "Thomason, Simon" <<a href="mailto:Simon.Thomason@racq.com.au">Simon.Thomason@racq.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Was reading over this article today and did notice the comments about battery backups.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/nbn-construction-several-months-behind-quigley/story-fn91v9q3-1226163841204">http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/nbn-construction-several-months-behind-quigley/story-fn91v9q3-1226163841204</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I have to be honest and have not been following in great detail what is happening with battery backups but that said I am wondering if they have taken into account the product life cycle when you introduce UPS.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I did find this which did not really indicate who will be responsible for the UPS? Does this mean Users or ISP?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>5.8 Battery Backup </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In order to comply with the Government’s objectives, NBN Co will provide a Battery Backup solution so as to temporarily power Network Termination Units (<b>NTUs</b>) installed at the Fibre End-User’s premise in the event of a mains power failure. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Standard NTU installation will include installation of a Battery Backup Unit together with the initial battery. Going forward, battery replacement, charging, and maintenance will not be NBN Co’s responsibility. Any battery-related alarms will be passed to the RSPs for appropriate action.; <a href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/nbn-co-3-year-gbe-corporate-plan-final-17-dec-10.pdf">http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/nbn-co-3-year-gbe-corporate-plan-final-17-dec-10.pdf</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I know this is a small thing in the grand scheme of things but will be interesting in 2 to 5 years times when all of these UPS are not maintained. </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#003478'>Simon Thomason</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#003478'>Network Engineer</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:green'>Members save 1%* p.a. on car loan rates with no ongoing fees. 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