<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>We've got a very easy to use CMS (Much like word), comes with a bunch of design templates included so you don't need to worry about implementing a site: <a href="http://cms.squizsuite.net/">http://cms.squizsuite.net/</a> (it's also open source).</div><div><br></div><div>Has workflow in case you need sanity checks by several staff members/groups, and word-style tracked changes/commenting for collaboration.</div><br><div><div>On 10/10/2011, at 4:34 AM, Andrew Fort wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Ben Buxton <<a href="mailto:bb.ausnog@bb.cactii.net">bb.ausnog@bb.cactii.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">+1 here for the Notch architecture. Really simplifies network<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">automation....although..<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Andrew Fort <<a href="mailto:afort@choqolat.org">afort@choqolat.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://code.google.com/p/netmunge/">http://code.google.com/p/netmunge/</a> to have Mr. CLI parse the router<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">output into structured data)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I'll put a plug in for <a href="http://code.google.com/p/textfsm">http://code.google.com/p/textfsm</a> for parsing router<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">output. It was written at and used within<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Google and has really simple regex based templates, so you dont have to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">spend all your coding time<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">writing complex logic to parse stuff. This just works.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ben<br></blockquote><br>I agree; TextFSM is really a neat library, and I encourage everyone to<br>check it out.<br><br>If someone would like support for it in Mr. CLI, I'd be happy to<br>accept such a merge. To plug it in, one would need to write a module<br>which mapped the vendor name and command entered (from Mr. CLI) to the<br>TextFSM parser template. If you use the same API netmunge does (see<br><a href="http://code.google.com/p/netmunge/source/browse/netmunge/__init__.py">http://code.google.com/p/netmunge/source/browse/netmunge/__init__.py</a>),<br>it'll plug right in.<br><br>Netmunge is more "raw" in that you're not hidden from the fact you're<br>writing Yapps2 parser definitions. That said, it didn't take me longer<br>to write netmunge parsers than it did TextFSM ones. It's true that the<br>edge cases require writing helper methods, and the inline emit style<br>takes getting used to. Sometimes this freedom can be useful, say for<br>converting MAC address text formats as I do in the cisco_show_arp<br>grammar.<br><br>As a comparison, here's a similar type of output parser definition<br>from each library. TextFSM is simpler and more consistent. The<br>netmunge one is heavy:<br><br>textfsm:<br><a href="http://code.google.com/p/textfsm/source/browse/trunk/examples/juniper_version_template">http://code.google.com/p/textfsm/source/browse/trunk/examples/juniper_version_template</a><br><br>netmunge:<br>http://code.google.com/p/netmunge/source/browse/netmunge/grammars/source/netscreen_get_system.g<br><br>My only reason for not using TextFSM is my dislike of Google's<br>Contributor License Agreement. (to wit: "please sign here to<br>contribute open source code" ;-). So I couldn't give my contributions<br>back to TextFSM users in a way that agreed with me. I suspect we all<br>lose in this case :/. A final irony: Yapps2, the parser used by<br>netmunge, was written by a Googler.<br><br>-a<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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