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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=166071705-20052011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>There's no doubt that the benchmark of 100Mbps was screwing
the pooch and this was a screwup. This was made without any understanding
of reality. </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Paul Brooks
[mailto:pbrooks@layer10.com.au] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 20 May 2011 3:16
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Daniel Rose<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AusNOG] Alternative to
NBN?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Most people in the industry know about this aspect of Malcolm's past,
and its certainly mentioned in the media most of the times he is
interviewed.<BR>Personally that is what gives me hope that he will turn out to
be more effective than others in the opposition communications role in 'keeping
the goverenment honest'. If only he could get out of necessarily toeing the
party line. It was to Turnbull's credit that he turned the opposition's argument
from 'we don't need no 100 Megs, 20 is fine' to 'we might need 100Megs, it might
be a good idea - but we have no independent evidence, analysis or business case
to work out whether it is a good use of funds or not' - which is a much more
reasonable argument in my book.<BR><BR>I still think Conroy screwed up when he
made the performance benchmark 'must deliver at least 100Mbps downstream'.
Ifhe'd made the requirement 'must deliver at least 20 Mbps upstream' he could
have ahieved he same result, with much less scope for argument because the
'we're building an expensive new entrtainment network' angle would be much more
easily dismissed.<BR><BR>P.<BR><BR><BR>On 20/05/2011 2:54 PM, Daniel Rose wrote:
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=310215204-20052011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I love the fact that people haven't put 2 and 2 together
and realise that Malcolm Turnbull probably is still good friends with his
former co-owner of OzEmail, Sean Howard</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=310215204-20052011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>People see Turnbull as just some politician, not
realising that he was at one stage the head of Australia's largest ISP (and in
duty of full disclosure, also my employer in that
role)</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul Brooks<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 20 May 2011 2:37
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [AusNOG] Alternative to NBN?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>On 19/05/2011 5:42 PM,
Paul Gear wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:4DD4C9DC.7080004@libertysys.com.au type="cite">On
19/05/11 13:36, Damien Morris wrote:
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<DIV>I heard Malcolm Turnbull giving an answer on Lateline last night that
was almost word-for-word the same response he gave me at the Vocus DC
launch last year.</DIV>
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<DIV>Where is all this mythical 100mb/s-to-the-home capacity that already
exists in X% of the country..?
:)</DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>10mb/s-to-the-home would be an improvement,
IMO.<BR>10mb/s-to-the-home-and-doesn't-drop-out-every-time-it-rains would
have me kissing the feet of whichever ISP could pull it
off.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Make it 10 Mbps-symmetric and I'd agree wih you.
Figuring out he technology mix to deliver 10 Mbps upstream is not
trivial.<BR><BR>Turnbull et al claim that the DOCSIS3 deployments on Optus and
Telstra HFC cables are already delivering 100 Mbps to the home, and so are
delivering NBN-compatible services already past 2.something million homes.
Again, they ignore the upstream - the 100Mbps HFC cable services are 100/2 -
only 1.5 to 2 Mbps upstream, not 40 Mbps upstream that the NBN fibre 100/40
product delivers, and HFC is also not QoS-enabled or IPv6-enabled either - or
available wholesale.<BR><BR>Paul.<BR><BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="86">--
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