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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Why not just put Vyatta on an old machine with multiple nic’s, and use it to segregate your AP’s from said crown jewels?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Damien Morris<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 19 May 2011 1:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] Enterprise Protection for the Consumer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Hey NOGers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Maybe a bit OT - but what devices have people heard of or had experience with that give the enterprise-grade feature experience with consumer-grade gear?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Note I said 'experience' and not 'quality' - so you wouldn't run your business on it but you could set up your home DMZ, walled garden, VPN concentrator, RADIUS, 802.1x, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">The thought occurred as I was experimenting running multiple APs off a single LAN segment at home to test the performance of each and realised I was creating a large attack surface area with no protection beyond WPA2. Break through an AP and you get the crown jewels.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">The most obvious example I can think of is the Asus N-16 which seems ridiculously overpowered compared to its contemporaries, and can run the seminal DD-WRT for some enterprise features (and a more-or-less full featured linux distribution with iptables and at least three discrete interfaces, albeit one of them wireless. You can add a USB drive to it too if you need more). For the record, I'm not a fan of Linux but I can't see IOS or a BSD-able device coming cheap.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Soekris, Mikrotik, Guruplug et al all seem a little too cost-heavy after you add the necessary extras to get them going, and the fact you'd need more than one device to realistically built enterprise-class network topology.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Love to hear anyone's feedback. E.g. has anyone ever hacked Vyatta onto a $50 consumer grade box and powered it with a PoE injector..? :)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;min-height: 14.0px"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Damien.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.<br><a href="http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg">http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br><a href="https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1CkO94rp0N/3SMAfR37nQheKo3nhixPfq/0.004">Report this message as spam</a> <br> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><br><p>Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.<br><a href="http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg">http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg</a></p><!-- MailGuard Message ID: 4dd4aef24c5764 - use this number for reporting -->
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