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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m still loving how everyone is raving about wireless as the “be all, end all” . <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>They want this high speed 4G network to happen but they don’t consider the backbone of it all.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Makes me laugh every time :P<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew Oskam<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I.T Consultant<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M:</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>0416 894 399<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>E:</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> blue.flayme@gmail.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Damien Morris<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 19 May 2011 1:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'AusNOG'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Alternative to NBN?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I heard Malcolm Turnbull giving an answer on Lateline last night that was almost word-for-word the same response he gave me at the Vocus DC launch last year.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Where is all this mythical 100mb/s-to-the-home capacity that already exists in X% of the country..? :)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On 18/05/11 2:40 AM, "Mark Stewart" <<a href="mailto:mark@nabc.com.au">mark@nabc.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm' id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/17/gchq_plt/">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/17/gchq_plt/</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'>And this just showed up on the reg. How topical </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#005DA2'>J</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'>Regards,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'>Mark Stewart</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'>PO Box 486, WANNEROO WA 6946</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'>m: 0438 005 415</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'>e: <a href="mailto:mark@nabc.com.au"><span style='color:#005DA2'>mark@nabc.com.au</span></a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'>w: <a href="http://www.nabc.com.au"><span style='color:#005DA2'>www.nabc.com.au</span></a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'><img border=0 width=62 height=91 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CC1635.74CECF10" alt="Description: nutsandbolts-logo"> <img border=0 width=203 height=100 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.png@01CC1635.74CECF10" alt="Description: nutsandbolts-header"></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:green'>Please consider the environment before you print this e-mail.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>As communication via the internet is insecure in the form of e-mail, you are advised that material which may offend or infringe individual rights may be transmitted without the knowledge or consent of Nuts and Bolts Computing or any of its related entities or subsidiaries. Whilst Nuts and Bolts Computing has taken reasonable steps to ensure the integrity of such communications, it accepts no liability for material transmitted via this medium.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This e-mail may contain privileged and confidential information and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity it is addressed to. If you are not the addressee indicated, or the person responsible for delivering e-mail, you may not copy, print, forward or deliver this message to anyone. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and insure that the original transmission and its content is deleted and destroyed. Thanking you for your attention.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Mark Newton [<a href="mailto:newton@internode.com.au">mailto:newton@internode.com.au</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 16 May 2011 8:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Stewart<br><b>Cc:</b> Skeeve Stevens; AusNOG<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Alternative to NBN?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On 15/05/2011, at 10:57 PM, Mark Stewart wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005DA2'>Synergy (Western Power) were working on Internet over Power some years ago in South Perth and some other areas which was canned due to some issues with Ham radio users?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>It wasn't just ham radio, although that's what the power companies emphasised.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Broadband over power lines turned sections of the electrical grid into<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>giant broadcast antennae, spraying RF in all directions. The fifth<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>harmonic blatted air traffic control frequencies, which is probably the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>number one reason why the technology was never, ever going to... fly.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> - mark<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'><br><span class=apple-style-span>--</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'>Mark Newton Email: <a href="mailto:newton@internode.com.au">newton@internode.com.au</a> (W)</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'>Network Engineer Email: <a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a> (H)</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'>Internode Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82282999</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'>"Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><br><br></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>