<div>Perhaps, this might help.</div><div><br></div><a href="http://www.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de/papers/AMSU-CDRW-10.pdf">http://www.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de/papers/AMSU-CDRW-10.pdf</a><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de/papers/AMSU-CDRW-10.pdf"></a>Comparing DNS Resolvers in the Wild<br>
<div><a href="http://www.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de/papers/AMSU-CDRW-10.pdf"></a>-------<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Andrew Paternoster <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Andrew@screwloose.com.au">Andrew@screwloose.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We were having the same issue at a customers place. <a href="http://www.news.com.au" target="_blank">www.news.com.au</a> was really slow. I think it has something to do with some load balancing providers like <a href="http://akamai.net" target="_blank">akamai.net</a>. When you use the Google dns servers they think your in the US and give you as US mirror instead of a AUS mirror. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I did a few tests and the after changing the DNS servers to the local ISP and clearing the DNS cache I got a ip from <a href="http://akamai.net" target="_blank">akamai.net</a> that was local to Australia and a lot faster. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Andrew Paternoster</span></p>
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</td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cameron Murray<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 20 April 2011 4:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> Angelo Giuffrida<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Google DNS 8.8.8.8</span></p>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">From memory when they were first released they both resolved to the US for me.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
Regards</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Cameron</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Angelo Giuffrida <<a href="mailto:angelo.giuffrida@gmail.com" target="_blank">angelo.giuffrida@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">From what I remember, 8.8.8.8 never used to resolve back to Australia. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I remember distinctively that unlike <a href="http://google.com/" target="_blank">google.com</a> which has an Australian mirror (and resolves back to AUS through some routing black magic), their free DNS resolvers don't which was the reason why I didn't want to use them. </p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">But I could be remembering wrong... :)</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Angelo Giuffrida</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>Sent from my iPhone</p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
<br>On 20/04/2011, at 4:23 PM, Christopher Pollock <<a href="mailto:chris@ionetworks.com.au" target="_blank">chris@ionetworks.com.au</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all, </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Just thought I'd share something I discovered today that might affect some of you. Recently at home I've been having weird international speed issues (ISP is Internode) but only to certain locations. Speedtests and line sync were fine, some downloads great, others crawled. Vimeo was unusably slow, the App store was barely usable. Internode reported no issues. Swapped routers, no change.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I finally nailed it down today - in a stroke of laziness I'd set 8.8.8.8 for the DHCP pool's DNS server. Turns out, 8.8.8.8 doesn't seem to exist in Australia anymore. I swear this used to be in Sydney, it was around 60ms away. Wasn't it? Now, from my home, every box I've got around Au and every Traceroute site I can find, it's showing up in California.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">or-10mf.bne#traceroute 8.8.8.8</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Type escape sequence to abort.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Tracing the route to 8.8.8.8</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 1 150.101.180.24 28 msec 28 msec 28 msec</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 2 150.101.180.50 24 msec 28 msec 28 msec</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 3 203.16.212.13 44 msec 44 msec 44 msec</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 4 72.14.223.1 48 msec 44 msec 44 msec</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 5 <a href="tel:66.249.95.226" target="_blank">66.249.95.226</a> 44 msec 44 msec</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="tel:66.249.95.224" target="_blank">66.249.95.224</a> 44 msec</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 6 <a href="tel:209.85.249.52" target="_blank">209.85.249.52</a> 148 msec 144 msec</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="tel:66.249.95.166" target="_blank">66.249.95.166</a> 196 msec</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 7 <a href="tel:209.85.255.34" target="_blank">209.85.255.34</a> 160 msec 148 msec 144 msec</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 8 <a href="tel:209.85.255.39" target="_blank">209.85.255.39</a> 180 msec</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 209.85.255.217 176 msec 176 msec</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 9 209.85.250.101 176 msec 176 msec 180 msec</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 10 209.85.241.154 176 msec</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 209.85.241.162 184 msec</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 209.85.241.154 192 msec</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 11 8.8.8.8 176 msec 176 msec 176 msec</span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">A geolocation of the last hop before it finds its target: <a href="http://www.ip2location.com/209.85.241.154" target="_blank">http://www.ip2location.com/209.85.241.154</a> - defs in the US. So Google's anycast DNS from the US is returning US-local mirror addresses for things instead of using Au CDNs. And it's causing weird, per-destination slowness. So that's the reason my 'net has been sporadically terrible this month.</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Anyone else got anything from 8.8.8.8 in Australia?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">--<br>Christopher Pollock,<br>io Networks Pty Ltd. </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">e. <a href="mailto:chris@ionetworks.com.au" target="_blank">chris@ionetworks.com.au</a><br>
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