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<div>My general feeling is that anything that allows a delay in moving to IPv6 is, well, just going to end in more tears later on.  </div>
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<div>On 01/02/2011, at 10:46 AM, Daniel Harrison wrote:</div>
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<div>There were at least two proposals for what to do with these.<br>
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One to use them as private addresses:<br>
 <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wilson-class-e-02">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wilson-class-e-02</a><br>
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... and another, older one, to make them public:<br>
 <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fuller-240space-02">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fuller-240space-02</a><br>
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Not sure what happened to these but they are both expired. My personal<br>
preference would be to use them as private addresses, as the pain of<br>
making them safe to use as public addresses is perhaps comparable to<br>
switching to IPv6 anyway :)<br>
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-Daniel Harrison<br>
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On 1 February 2011 10:55, Steve Smith <<a href="mailto:tarkasteve@gmail.com">tarkasteve@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">reserved 240-254 blocks? The registry implies they're reserved for<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">multicast but I can't find anything concrete on this.  In practice I<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">suspect that they're hard-coded into so many IP stacks they're<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">effectively useless anyway.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 1 February 2011 10:29, Richard Bayliss <<a href="mailto:bayliss@juniper.net">bayliss@juniper.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 01/02/2011, at 10:26 AM, James Troy wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">So the next question is who was allocted the last 2 blocks?<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:23 AM, James Troy <jamest@pageuppeople.com<<a href="mailto:jamest@pageuppeople.com">mailto:jamest@pageuppeople.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Jonny Martin <jonny@jonnynet.net<<a href="mailto:jonny@jonnynet.net">mailto:jonny@jonnynet.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><<a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml">http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml</a>><br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Sort by the "Status" column to see all of the unallocated blocks in one<br>
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