<p>I guess the question I have is... How reversible are things like the voodoo fix et al? I don't mind my phone but it would be hard to turn down an opportunity at getting more battery life and less application related lag...</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 30/12/2010 5:52 PM, "Joe Cozzupoli" <<a href="mailto:cozzupj@gmail.com">cozzupj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Hi Kai,<br>> <br>> Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but I would definitely go for the<br>
> Nexus S<br>> <br>> <a href="http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s">http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s</a><br>> <br>> <<a href="http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s">http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s</a>>If you look around online, you<br>
> would be able to buy it outright for around $800AUD. The benefits of this is<br>> that firmware upgrades go to you straight away, unlike HTC or<br>> other manufacturer Android phones where they have to brand the firmware<br>
> upgrade before pushing it out.<br>> <br>> Also, I've been using the BlackBerry 9780 for a month now, its great. Runs<br>> OS6 so all nice and clean and bug free (so far).<br>> <br>> Just something else to consider.<br>
> <br>> Cheers,<br>> Joe Cozzupoli.<br>> <br>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Kai <<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>>> Hi Ryan,<br>>><br>
>> I visited our only Telstra shop today, they're a franchise but they have<br>>> the HTC Desire, Nokia N8 and Samsung Galaxy S (2.1-update firmware) and<br>>> they said they've sold quite a few Samsung's with absolutely no problem,<br>
>> so I showed the sales rep mine, he played with it for a bit,<br>>> acknowledged it is slow but that he hasn't seen any issues with the<br>>> one's they've sold.<br>>><br>>> My phone's spec:<br>
>> Model GT-I9000<br>>> Firmware 2.2<br>>> Baseband version: I9000DTJP3<br>>> Kernel: 2.6.32.9<br>>> Build: FROYO.DTJP5<br>>><br>>> I note Telstra's phone has 2.1-update firmware, mine has 2.2 but runs<br>
>> really badly.<br>>><br>>> I don't want to root my phone, shouldn't need to when it's only three<br>>> months old, but I'll read some more about the voodoo fix.<br>>><br>>> It's 3pm here, Sydney is three hours ahead of us, I'll ring Virgin<br>
>> tomorrow, try to talk to the front line customer service staff and see<br>>> if I can get anywhere...<br>>><br>>> Cheers<br>>> Kai<br>>><br>>> On 30/12/10 14:43, Ryan Verner wrote:<br>
>> > I'm extremely surprised by the opinions here; I own a I9000T (Telstra<br>>> branded model), and I love the phone - I'm a hopeless gadget geek who seems<br>>> to regularly change phones. I don't intend on changing this handset for<br>
>> some time.<br>>> ><br>>> > I had read about the issues people were having (terrible battery life,<br>>> GPS, reboots, lag), but I'm having none of them with the base 2.1 Telstra<br>>> ROM and voodoo fix; average battery life of 1-2 days (screen brightness<br>
>> lowest, Exchange sync on, sync everything else turned off), GPS works<br>>> flawlessly, unit is always responsive.<br>>> ><br>>> > Battery life definitely could be better, but several HTC handsets I<br>
>> tested were worse; seems to be the achilles heel of Android phones in<br>>> general currently.<br>>> ><br>>> > I've always pondered whether the Telstra firmware had a bunch of<br>>> manufacturer fixes the Optus branded ones didn't have; the build date on the<br>
>> shipped ROM is very recent ('2.1-update').<br>>> ><br>>> > Have you guys tried updating to 2.2? Maybe the issue is the shipping<br>>> firmware on the Optus handsets is total junk?<br>
>> ><br>>> > R<br>>> ><br>>> > On 29/12/2010, at 20:33 , Kai wrote:<br>>> ><br>>> >> Hahaa, I'm on two year contract with the Galaxy S, I can't just throw it<br>
>> >> out, even though I'd love to. I read Andrew Fort's email, I found the<br>>> >> only spot in the house with good enough reception for data connection (I<br>>> >> -think- it's the best spot..but the signal meter on this phone isn't<br>
>> >> reliable anymore) and downloading ROM Manager, then I'll try step 2 and<br>>> >> fingers crossed that works 'cause it's gunna suck if I'm contracted to<br>>> >> this phone for another year and nine months :S<br>
>> >><br>>> >> My VirginMobile plan is good but this phone sux balls!<br>>> >><br>>> >> So why'd I get one? well, my old Nokia was dying, needed a replacement,<br>>> >> thought I'd give smartphones a go since it allows me to check weather<br>
>> >> radar and stuff when I'm storm chasing, didn't want an iPhone, figured<br>>> >> I'd try the Samsung... and my old Nokia got stolen about a month after I<br>>> >> got the Samsung.<br>
>> >><br>>> >> I've been using Nokia for the last eight years, first time I've used<br>>> >> Samsung hasn't left a good taste in my mouth!<br>>> >><br>>> >> Cheers<br>
>> >> Kai<br>>> >><br>>> >> On 29/12/10 17:36, Darren Moss wrote:<br>>> >>> Yep, that looks just like mine.<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> Go buy one and junk the other thing.<br>
>> >>><br>>> >>> Spend less time getting the thing to work and more time actually using<br>>> it.<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> Sounds like an ad.<br>>> >>><br>
>> >>> :)<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> Regards,<br>>> >>><br>>> >>><br>>> >>> Darren Moss<br>>> >>> General Manager<br>>> >>> Australia and New Zealand<br>
>> >>><br>>> >>> em3 People and Technology, Managed Technology Experts.<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> [p] 1300 131 083 extension 105 [f] 03 9017 2287<br>>> >>> [e] <a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a> [w] <a href="http://www.em3.com.au">www.em3.com.au</a><br>
>> >>> PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City<br>>> >>> [p] 0800 888 285 [f] 09 887 0273<br>>> >>> PO Box 39573, Howick 2045<br>
>> >>><br>>> >>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> >>> From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<br>>> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Kai<br>
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2010 8:33 PM<br>>> >>> To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S<br>
>> >>><br>>> >>> Hey Darren,<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> Hahahaaa, for some reason I was expecting at least some reassuring<br>>> >>> feedback that there's a fix for all this. In all the browsing I've done<br>
>> >>> in the last month I can't find one reliable resolution for this bloody<br>>> >>> phone.<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> I don't wanna jailbreak/root it, that'll void the warranty, I'm tempted<br>
>> >>> to ask Virgin for an exchange with Nokia N8 or maybe HTC but the<br>>> >>> likelihood they'll actually exchange it is 0, none or bugger all.<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> My Kies CD and Samsung data cable got stolen when my car got broken<br>
>> into<br>>> >>> in Darwin, I've been trying to get the phone to behave itself on<br>>> >>> Bluetooth but either the machine doesn't want to talk to the phone or<br>>> >>> vice versa 'cause they can see each other, but they can't pair and Kies<br>
>> >>> tells me there are no Bluetooth devices available. FFS. Anyway, I'm<br>>> back<br>>> >>> in Broome and managed to find the USB cable that fits the Samsung,<br>>> >>> downloaded and installed Kies, backed up, upgraded firmware....but yep,<br>
>> >>> still crashes randomly, email doesn't know if it's coming or going, and<br>>> >>> recently it says it can't send sms until a service is available even<br>>> >>> though I have four signal bars displaying. Keh?<br>
>> >>><br>>> >>> I think I've got a snowflakes chance in hell to get a replacement,<br>>> >>> Virgin customer service staff are 99% outsourced, and with no offence<br>>> to<br>
>> >>> outsourced staff, if it's not in their script they don't know what to<br>>> do<br>>> >>> so I end up on hold for ages, like I did last weekend.<br>>> >>><br>
>> >>> I used my cousins Nokia N8 on the weekend, it looked ok but then again<br>>> >>> anything would look ok compared to the Galaxy S. That said, I asked on<br>>> >>> another mailing list and one user replied she's got hers last month and<br>
>> >>> she loves it, hehe, lucky her, mine sux!<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> You like the BB Torch9800?<br>>> >>> <a href="http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberrytorch/">http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberrytorch/</a><br>
>> >>><br>>> >>> It has a REAL keypad, I like it already :P what are the screen<br>>> dimensions?<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> Cheers<br>>> >>> Kai<br>
>> >>><br>>> >>> On 29/12/10 17:13, Darren Moss wrote:<br>>> >>>> Hey Kai,<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> If I had a dollar for every complaint we've received regarding the<br>
>> Samsung Galaxy phone......<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> We've had a few of these connected up on our Hosted Exchange platform<br>>> and the customers have the same complaints:<br>
>> >>>><br>>> >>>> 1. Poor battery life (number 1 problem - lucky to get 8 hours)<br>>> >>>> 2. Crashing and hanging<br>>> >>>> 3. Phone restarts at random<br>
>> >>>> 4. Slow to pick up mail (even when in push mode)<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> We fixed some with Voda via firmware upgrade, but the bottom line was<br>>> they were just too painful.<br>
>> >>>> There were too many "issues" and we couldn't get any real information<br>>> from the telco or the vendor - similar to the old Nokia e75 handsets which<br>>> were a disaster.<br>
>> >>>><br>>> >>>> I thought that the handset could not possibly be that bad, so I bought<br>>> one in November. It's sitting in a box at my Melbourne office after 1 week<br>>> of use. Even the staff didn't want it after hearing my complaining.<br>
>> >>>><br>>> >>>> Now I have a BB Torch - the best handset I have ever owned without a<br>>> doubt (upgraded from BB Bold). It actually works, is fast and reliable.<br>>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> HTH.<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> Regards,<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> Darren Moss<br>>> >>>> General Manager<br>
>> >>>> Australia and New Zealand<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> em3 People and Technology, Managed Technology Experts.<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> [p] 1300 131 083 extension 105 [f] 03 9017 2287<br>
>> >>>> [e] <a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a> [w] <a href="http://www.em3.com.au">www.em3.com.au</a><br>>> >>>> PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189<br>>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City<br>>> >>>> [p] 0800 888 285 [f] 09 887 0273<br>>> >>>> PO Box 39573, Howick 2045<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> >>>> From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<br>>> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Kai<br>
>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2010 8:02 PM<br>>> >>>> To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>>> >>>> Subject: [AusNOG] [off-topic] Samsung Galaxy S<br>
>> >>>><br>>> >>>> Hi guys and girls,<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> I hope you all had a great Christmas, I did! No prezzies, well no<br>>> >>>> conventional prezzies, I had time with my family/friends for<br>
>> Christmas,<br>>> >>>> that's all I wanted! :)<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> Sorry for the off-topic post, I wanted to ask everyone's valued<br>>> opinions<br>
>> >>>> but feel free to reply off list with feedback.<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> Last Monday Broome's Optus repeater had issues and they had to get<br>>> parts<br>
>> >>>> up from Perth (thanks to Chris Brown for the info), coincidentally<br>>> >>>> that's also when my Samsung decided to play silly buggers. I initially<br>>> >>>> thought there may be issues with Optus Broome repeater here because I<br>
>> >>>> have fluctuating signal strength meter readings when standing under<br>>> the<br>>> >>>> Optus repeater here, but, overall, the most annoying thing is random<br>>> >>>> black screens and general slow performance.<br>
>> >>>><br>>> >>>> Similar to the trouble this lady is having:<br>>> >>>> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0</a><br>
>> >>>><br>>> >>>> Problems are intermittant enough to be annoying, ie I can't reproduce<br>>> on<br>>> >>>> cue but my phone is less than three months old, I expect it to work. I<br>
>> >>>> backed up my contacts and did a firmware upgrade last week, still<br>>> >>>> doesn't work properley.<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> Anyone got similar issues?<br>
>> >>>><br>>> >>>> In case anyone does have similar issues my details are:<br>>> >>>> Model GT-I9000<br>>> >>>> Firmware 2.2<br>>> >>>> Baseband version: I9000DTJP3<br>
>> >>>> Kernel: 2.6.32.9<br>>> >>>> Build: FROYO.DTJP5<br>>> >>>><br>>> >>>> I am with VirginMobile, they use Optus mobile network.<br>>> >>>><br>
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