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</style><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Before I start, usual disclaimers apply, this isn’t
legal advice, it’s for your general education only. No, I will not
give you legal advice if you mail me off-list either!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">I’ve been reading with interest the emails in the “Urgent
- Pacnet NOC contact (with BGP clue)” thread. Without seeking to
reopen the legality or otherwise of the conduct alleged (which has been done to
death) I thought that the list membership might benefit from some general information
concerning seeking urgent injunctive relief (i.e. an injunction) after hours.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Where a situation such as the one under discussion occurs
outside a court’s usual operating hours, the Supreme Courts of each state
and territory, and the Federal Courts in each state will have a “dutyjudge” who can hear urgent applications for things such as
injunctions. If something like the current <i><span style="font-style:
italic">topic du jour</span></i> occurs on Friday night, and it’s of such
urgency that it can’t wait till Monday, it may be possible to have the
duty judge hear an application for an injunction on the weekend. In
extraordinarily urgent circumstances (such as where someone is driving a
bulldozer towards your property – this has happened!) the judge mighthear the application by telephone.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Injunctions aren’t particularly easy things to get and
they’re certainly not something that should be sought likely. You
would need to, amongst other things, show that damages are not an adequate
remedy, that there is a serious question to be tried, and that the balance of
convenience favours granting the injunction. You would also need to give
the “usual undertaking” as to damages – which could be quite
expensive if you lose the overall case and the other side suffered loss or
damage as a result of the injunction.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">If you’re ever in a situation where you might need to
go down this path, talk to a lawyer (not me) immediately. If you are a
person of commerce and have an established relationship with a lawyer, it might
be worth keeping a mobile or after-hours number for them handy. Although it’s
possible that a court would grant an interlocutory injunction on the
application of a self-represented party (by which I mean that so far as I know
there is no rule against it), I think it’s more of a theoretical possibility
than a real one.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Dale Clapperton<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></blockquote></span></body></html>