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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>So, to update.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>After finally getting a Pacnet
engineer who understood BGP and the issue (and was referring to my initial
email to AusNOG), the engineer was instructed by his boss (don’t have a
name) to tell me to call APNIC.... but couldn’t tell me what they
expected APNIC to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>I informed the Pacnet engineer
(Ramon) that if they keep allowing AINS to announce the ranges (see below) then
they are party to the Denial of Service that is going on and in turn are committing
a criminal act as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>Btw... the ranges I noted: </span><span
style='color:#244061'>180.189.136.0/22 and 175.45.144.0/20 are being announced
by AINS as /24’s for maximum disruption effect.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>I’ve now called APNIC and
they’re not a 24/7 operation and while I was able to get it escalated to
someone to figure out if perhaps APNIC can send an email to Pacnet to ask them
to stop the announcements from their customer (AINS)... not that in the
slightest way this should be required at all. I am waiting for APNIC to call
me back to tell me if they can do anything (doubtful – but Pacnet seem to
think they have authority here).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>Pacnet, who are extremely hard
to talk to and no-one seems to want to take any responsibility, in my opinion,
since they’ve now been informed of the act, and are (at the moment)
choosing not to do anything, then they are now a party to the denial of service
(using BGP).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>Now, I’ve received advice
of take it legal... and we will..... but it is Friday night... and I don’t
want to have this network down for the next two-three days (especially as I
leave the country Sunday).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>Now, I guess my next request to
this list would be – does anyone know anyone of sufficient authority
level at Pacnet who can instruct their engineers to fix this situation?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens,
CEO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>eintellego Pty
Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net
/ www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753
383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414
753 383 / skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Skeeve Stevens <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 10 December 2010 6:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Urgent - Pacnet NOC contact (with BGP clue)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>Hey all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>The situation I had a month or
so ago with a provider announcing ranges of a customer they had cut-off as a
form of punishment, has raised its head again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>This time I will name names, as
I’ve just had a conversation with the GM of AINS (<a
href="http://www.ains.com.au"><span style='color:#7030A0'>www.ains.com.au</span></a>)
Curtis Raams who said that it was their right to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>They seem to think that because
they have an agreement to service the customer, that when they are suspended
they are allowed to announce the customers ranges into the global table, to
stop them using them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>The customer is multi-homed and
is now essentially suffering the effects of a Denial of Service issue due to
these announcements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>My simply resolution, is to get Pacnet
to stop announcing their ranges... and essentially it will be 99% resolved...
if AINS don’t want to talk to them that is up to them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>The ranges affected (Belonging
to Alumina Networks)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>180.189.136.0/22<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>And possibly 175.45.144.0/20 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>The announcements may be smaller
than this (le24)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>Either could a Pacnet NOC guy
with BGP clue contact me on my cell below, or someone provide a direct NOC
contact of Pacnet... I have been on hold to their support line for a while now
and not having any luck getting someone who understands what I’m talking
about.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens,
CEO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>eintellego Pty
Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net
/ www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753
383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414
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