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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hey Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We too have had multiple meetings with NBNCo, even taken some potential
RSP customers in and had technical deep dives which have been awesome in
helping to understand their intentions. These guys are quite open and willing
to convey anything to anyone who asks. Most of the information you’d
want to know now is public as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t blame them for not being more active on AusNOG
though, with the anti-sentiment towards NBNCo by some, they’re unlikely
to have time to constantly defend themselves... but I’m sure if you
emailed some of them (go through the archive) you’d find them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>eintellego - The Experts that the Experts call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>- Juniper - HP Networking - Cisco - Brocade - Arista - Allied
Telesis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew
Moyle-Croft<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 December 2010 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Lisson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN Legislation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 01/12/2010, at 2:05 AM, Steve Lisson wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hi,</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'>For starters, I will note that the NBN people have not had its
operations group active on this list and would have loved to have seen that, I
see that as a flaw (just like people keep on going on about lack of
‘business case’), they have not been open, but I can also see that
as a result of the government taking control of an issue and the people working
for said NBN Co being at the whim of the government, that is part of the cost
of the government taking control of such an issue like this.</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>So, this comes down to - "they haven't asked me so I
don't understand and feel left out"? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>At a product and technical level we've got the other problem
- they've been asking for meetings almost every week (feels like it - probably
a couple of times a month at the moment) where we go through a whole range of
things and they ask us our opinions on various options. We've spent days
going through this stuff to ensure it works for us and others as well. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Did you go along to any of their briefing sessons?
Have you read the bits on their website? Have you called them and
asked to have a chat if you're likely to be an RSP? I can point you
(offlist) to the right people if you want.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>My experience so far has been people who have clue asking
the right questions and being ready to listen to what we've got to say. Who
then think about it and come back with more questions and/or making sure they
understand what we've said. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>MMC<o:p></o:p></p>
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