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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Curt,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.cablelaying.com.au/cable_lubricant.html">http://www.cablelaying.com.au/cable_lubricant.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This way, you can explain to the banks that you have all bases
covered.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You will either be able to use it for laying cable, or, in the
event of the alternative, the bank / NBNCo can use it on the hole that they
have just gouged in your business.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Win/Win.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>S<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Curtis Bayne<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 November 2010 12:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Edwards; vak<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN Legislation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>We've already
begun divesting our carriage-related assets and ceased regional roll out in
August, straight after the election. From what I've read, we're not the only
provider to be doing so - the advice my fellow management types are receiving
from their advisers and boards are the same as what we're getting: get out now.<br>
<br>
Banks refuse to give any money given the regulatory uncertainty. Any other
investment capital is only accessible at ridiculous interest because of the
increased risk. The NBN has rewarded the tyre-kicking, bottom-feeding resellers
who have contributed NOTHING to infrastructure in this country and punished
those who have risked significant amounts of capital to further telco
endeavors.<br>
<br>
For anyone considering investing in their own infrastructure in Australia, I
have one piece of advice for you:<br>
<br>
Bring lube.<br>
<br>
<br>
-C<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net on behalf of John Edwards<br>
Sent: Mon 11/29/2010 12:09 PM<br>
To: vak<br>
Cc: ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Legislation<br>
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<br>
On 29/11/2010, at 9:45 AM, vak wrote:<br>
<br>
> Many people have claimed the stifling of innovation as a reason why we<br>
> should not have the NBN.<br>
><br>
> I would argue the exact opposite. The NBN will stimulate new ideas and<br>
> products. Those who generate new ideas today will be the winners in the<br>
> next decade - its an opportunity we must not sqander.<br>
<br>
<br>
History shows that on the ASX at least, the successful carriers in Australia
are those that have deployed their own infrastructure. This is generally
considered to be "innovating" by press releases, as it allows these
carriers to change the market they're in, and more importantly have a significant
competitive and technical advantage over resellers.<br>
<br>
With the NBN, this opportunity is no more. We're back to the dialup days where
the difference between services was marginal because everyone connected over
the same basic infrastructure.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure that this is a bad thing in most cases, but there are plenty of
opportunities for history to repeat itself. Some group of investors may decide
that it's a great idea to buy market share by selling an unlimited product
below cost (they will also be heralded as "innovative"), which is
going to upset the industry as customers flock to the better deal or expect
their provider to match it. This will happen right up until they inevitably go
bust - complete with a chorus of I-told-you-so's by pundits and debts to wholesalers
including the NBN. The new problem for industry with that scenario is that this
time around the government is involved and will need to be seen to be
"doing something".<br>
<br>
There's also the regional areas - it seems that this part of the legislation
penalises anyone who would dare to compete with the wireless or satellite parts
of the NBN by providing a city-equivalent service.<br>
<br>
I am not opposed to the NBN, but I am opposed to uncertainty that results in
people not getting broadband. Legislation that basically prevents anyone from
legally deploying an interim solution better have a really good reason attached
to it.<br>
<br>
John<br>
<br>
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