<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 26/11/2010, at 9:23 PM, Terry Manderson wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Darren,<br><br>As I understand it, now that fibre infrastructure is listed specifically under the Telecommunications Act any installation needs to follow the NBN specifications by virtue of the ACMA standards and industry defined codes.. Problem as I see it is that I have no idea what those standards are, and where do I get a copy to follow. So I think you are fine to upgrade, as soon as the standards are released. Whenever that might be.. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Comms Alliance? It's been the place basic standards (eg. class based deployment for ULL) have been developed for, well, sometime now.</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>The only out clause to this is, I think, for point to point connections for companies that are not a carriage service.<br><br>I lament the days that both the ducts and copper were sold to telstra and not just the copper. But (being of a liberal mind) I loath the idea that the ducts remain owned by telstra, the copper is being ripped out to be replaced with fibre at (essentially) tax payer expense and owned by NBN and all other fibre services, regardless of duct use needs to follow the NBN approved Spec(*), I don't read that the legislation gives NDN veto power - but then Im no lawyer or legislation expert.<br><br>I also don't know the fine print to the telstra-nbn deal. It is all far from transparent IMHO.<br><br>Terry<br><br>On 26/11/2010, at 8:24 PM, Darren Moss wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Hi Bevan,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I don't follow how the entire industry is precluded from upgrading infrastructure.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">For those of us spending $200K + per year on data with the providers you mentioned, can you elaborate on this ?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Regards, <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Darren Moss<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">General Manager<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Australia and New Zealand<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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