<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yeah,<div>Def. more specifics if you can. I'm assuming the space is definitely PI space?</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br><div><div>On 12/11/2010, at 1:39 PM, James Paussa wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Depending on the size of the subnets you could always try advertising more<br>specific routes than the hostile ISP, of course if they are on this list<br>they might cotton onto it. ;)<br><br>-James.<br><br>On Fri, November 12, 2010 12:17 pm, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Ok briefly,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">A customer of ours is multi-homed.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">There has been a breakdown in the relationship with one of their suppliers<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">due to a billing dispute and their interconnection has been shut down.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This I do not have a problem with - its up to them to resolve it.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">But, due to my customer having another upstream, this supplier is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">announcing some of my customers ranges into their upstream (Pacnet) and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Pipe peering - essentially poisoning their routing and damage their<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ability to function.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The supplier never previously announced the ranges as they were announced<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">by my customers routers, so they've maliciously started announcing them.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This, in my opinion is equivalent to denial-of-service due to a commercial<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">dispute.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">My next steps are to contact their upstreams and inform them the provider<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">does not have the permission to announce these ranges and to please stop<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">them announcing them. I will then contact Pipe to have them do the same.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Anyone have any other ideas?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">...Skeeve<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From the Blackberry Bold 9700 of Skeeve Stevens<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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