<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 02/11/2010, at 8:33 PM, Roland Chan wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>+1. I imagine there's a simpler logistical reason for the POIs. Are<br>there locations for them?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Page 42 of <a href="http://www.accc.gov.au/content/item.phtml?itemId=952788&nodeId=ba62b7d9c49edbd240976a8d8753fb01&fn=ACCC%20discussion%20paper%20on%20NBN%20POIs.pdf">http://www.accc.gov.au/content/item.phtml?itemId=952788&nodeId=ba62b7d9c49edbd240976a8d8753fb01&fn=ACCC%20discussion%20paper%20on%20NBN%20POIs.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>Lists the initial NBNCo plan if 14 go ahead (ie. highly aggregated model).  But the ACCC paper is a discussion (and wants input) about how many there should be - also lists 114 if it's less aggregated.</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br><br>On 11/2/10, Brad Gould <<a href="mailto:bradley@internode.com.au">bradley@internode.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 02/11/2010, at 19:46, "Mark Smith"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">government, by law, forcing private telecommunications organisations to<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">use the NBN, rather than allowing them to build alternative and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">topologically diverse competitive infrastructure, as has been<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">suggested, may well be somewhat driven by this political agenda.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I'll put on my tinfoil hat for this one...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"Bollocks"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Show me one instance where the current Government has had the forethought to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">develop any sort of intergrated policy covering anything.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Filtering has been lumbering along since pre-2007.  Who knows how long<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Auslog has been fermenting in the AG's department.  NBN was conceived on a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">plane and a napkin, with its roots based in a huge middle finger to Sol.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">There aint alot of common ground there (nor are the advocates of each even a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">common demographic).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Brad<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AusNOG mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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