<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Is there a link? Couldn't find it on the commsday site.<br><br><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;"><b>From: </b>"Phil Pierotti" <phil.pierotti@platformnetworks.net><br><b>To: </b>"Matt Shadbolt" <matt.shadbolt@gmail.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"ausnog" <ausnog@ausnog.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, 6 October, 2010 10:42:57 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [AusNOG] Ans So It Begins<br><br>




<style>
<!--
 /* Font Definitions */
 @font-face
        {font-family:"Cambria Math";
        panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Calibri;
        panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Tahoma;
        panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Consolas;
        panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
 /* Style Definitions */
 p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0cm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:purple;
        text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle17
        {mso-style-type:personal-reply;
        font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
        color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
        {mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page WordSection1
        {size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
        margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
        {page:WordSection1;}
-->
</style>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
  <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
 </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->




<div class="WordSection1">

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">seen in CommsDay today.</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D">Regards,</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D"> </span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D">Phil Pierotti</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Network Operations Manager</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Platform Networks</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.platformnetworks.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">www.platformnetworks.net</span></a></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">ph. 1300 854 678</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span></p>

<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Matt
Shadbolt [mailto:matt.shadbolt@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 October 2010 10:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Phil Pierotti<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Ans So It Begins</span></p>

</div>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt">Have you got an article/link on this Phil?<br>
<br>
Matt. </p>

<div>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:35 AM,
Phil Pierotti <<a href="mailto:phil.pierotti@platformnetworks.net" target="_blank">phil.pierotti@platformnetworks.net</a>>
wrote:</p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">"The federal government has
confirmed that circumventing the proposed internet filter could constitute a<br>
criminal offence, and said it has not received any evidence suggesting the
policy will lead to an increase in<br>
encrypted internet traffic."<br>
<br>
Maybe I'm just getting old-n-senile but I'd swear that previously we had been
*very clearly* told that circumventing the filter would *not* be a crime.<br>
<br>
So:<br>
- as an ISP failing to implement the filter is a criminal offence.<br>
- as a customer circumventing the filter is a criminal offence<br>
- giving advice on how to perform criminal acts is (I'd assume) a criminal
offence<br>
- so teaching people about ways to circumvent the filter is a criminal offence<br>
<br>
I'd say that someone's been watching too many Simpsons episodes.<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgR0m-9FmM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgR0m-9FmM</a><br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Phil Pierotti<br>
Network Operations Manager<br>
Platform Networks<br>
<a href="http://www.platformnetworks.net" target="_blank">www.platformnetworks.net</a><br>
ph. 1300 854 678<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Andrew Fort<br>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2010 5:09 PM<br>
To: Andrew Judson<br>
Cc: ausnog<br>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Censhorship dead and buried?<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Andrew Judson <<a href="mailto:AJudson@internode.com.au" target="_blank">AJudson@internode.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
> wow!<br>
><br>
> "And it confirmed that most Australians roaming overseas would be
filtered because in the end, their connections would go though a network in
Australia."<br>
><br>
> so glad I live in Australia, latency must suck OS<br>
<br>
;-)<br>
<br>
So is this just bad journalism or is Conroy's mental illness contagious?<br>
<br>
Choice 1: route all my internet traffic via the corporate VPN from a<br>
(for example) Verizon USB modem on the East Coast of the US and be<br>
subject to Conroy's wishes.  Three weeks later, after my ACK to that<br>
SYN+ACK, I'll have plenty of time to consider my next keystroke.<br>
<br>
Choice 2: route only the 1918 prefixes via the VPN.<br>
<br>
Move along.  Nothing to see here (apparently).<br>
<br>
-a<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
AusNOG mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
AusNOG mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a></p>

</div>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>

</div>




<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br></blockquote><br><span><br><br>-- <br><span name="x"></span>Peter Tonoli <peter@medstv.unimelb.edu.au><br>IT Manager<br>The University of Melbourne St. Vincent's Academic Centre, St. Vincent's Institute and O'Brien Institute<span name="x"></span><br></span></div></body></html>