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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Richard,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Have you heard of doing something like this before? Not sure if
its going to help you buts its pretty cool idea 10mb...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cat 3 – used for voice cabling and 10Mb Ethernet <a
href="http://www.petri.co.il/csc_the_basics_of_ethernet_cabling.htm">http://www.petri.co.il/csc_the_basics_of_ethernet_cabling.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>iv also used hardened zyxel dslams which aren’t to badly priced.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think by far the cheapest option would be cat3 with a switch,
but if you’re willing to drop a few k then zyxel dslams are pretty good, but as
you say you’ll also need radius and a lns to terminate the ppp onto.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard.Mckenna@bankwest.com.au<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 30 September 2010 12:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] DSLAM for apartment complex<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi
NOG,</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I live in an
apartment complex and was thinking of setting up some internet connection sharing
/ file sharing with other apartments in the complex. </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I took a look
at the MDF, and it looks like there is 2x10 pair to each block of aparts (4-6),
with a 10 pair for phone, and a 10 for intercom/alarm/remote gate. </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I was thinking
of taking 2 pair and running pure ethernet, but that would require running some
extra cabling to each apart, which would be a hassle. </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Instead I was
thinking of setting up a DSLAM in the MDF and running A or VDSL. This could run
on pair 2 of each apartment's RJ11 phone socket. </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I could then
attach a router to the DSLAM uplink and run bonded dsl for the internet
connection.</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I was thinking
no PPP/Radius initially, perhaps running in bridged mode. </span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Does anyone
have any experience with this? Can anyone recommend  a some small scale
(read cheap) DSLAMs for 24 or less DSL lines?</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Preferably I
would like routing smarts integrated, but it is not essential. </span><br>
<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>cheers, </span><br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Richard
McKenna<br>
Network Engineer, IT Infrastructure</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>

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