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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Matt,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So what would you think of the
box as an LNS (when the code arrives) and Netflow is not necessary (done
elsewhere – at the border).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens,
CEO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>eintellego Pty
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060'>- Juniper - HP
Networking - CIsco - Arista -<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Moor<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 26 September 2010 1:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Cisco ASR 1004 vs Juniper MX 80<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We just went through exactly the same decision process, and
ended up purchasing ASR1004s with ESP10s and the 8x1Gb card. These were more
expensive than the MX80s, but the killer was that the MX80 lacked hardware
netflow support - limiting real-world throughput (with netflow enabled and a
1:1 sample rate) to ~400Mb/s.<br>
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A pity, because as you say, the MX80 looks like a terrific box on paper, and I
have a strong preference towards how Juniper manages configuration change
(commit, etc). I think we'll be happy with the ASRs, though - they're a nice
platform, and the RP2 looks to be very quick.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
<br>
Matt<br>
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On 23/09/10 12:34 PM, James Braunegg wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hey guys,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>We are looking at replacing two of our pop site’s edge
routers and after all the discussions this week on the Cisco 6500 platform on
why/not to use it I thought this would be a nice follow up post.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Our requirements for this installation are simple: we want
control and stability, and we only need 10 x 1 gb Ethernet interfaces max at
this time.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>We are looking at 4 x Cisco ASR 1004 would be configured
with 2 x 5 port gig interface card (40GB total system capacity, 20Mpps)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Or<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>We are looking at 4 x Juniper MX 80 which comes with 48 x
1gb ports and 4 x 10gb ports (I believe) <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Juniper markets the MX 80 as twice the performance at half
the price (80GB total system capacity, 65Mpps)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>The way I see it, it’s now really a Cisco vs Juniper
argument. Years ago I loved Juniper the SSG platform which was fantastic and
never missed a beat, although the new Juniper SRX platform has left me really
questioning Juniper on why they would release a platform with countless bugs
and issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>These Juniper issues have implanted fear in my mind and
questioning if it’s just a product line issue (i.e. the SRX) or a Juniper
issue in general. But on paper the Juniper MX 80 looks fantastic!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I would really love to hear some technical information or
even better field information on pros and cons for each platform, arguments
both for and against each. I’m sure Cisco has their fair share of issues
also… so let’s discuss!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Kindest Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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| <b>D:</b> (03) 9751 7616</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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