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We just went through exactly the same decision process, and ended up
purchasing ASR1004s with ESP10s and the 8x1Gb card. These were more
expensive than the MX80s, but the killer was that the MX80 lacked
hardware netflow support - limiting real-world throughput (with netflow
enabled and a 1:1 sample rate) to ~400Mb/s.<br>
<br>
A pity, because as you say, the MX80 looks like a terrific box on
paper, and I have a strong preference towards how Juniper manages
configuration change (commit, etc). I think we'll be happy with the
ASRs, though - they're a nice platform, and the RP2 looks to be very
quick.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Matt<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hey guys,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are looking at replacing two of our pop
site’s edge routers and after all the discussions this week on the
Cisco 6500 platform on why/not to use it I thought this would be a nice
follow up post.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Our requirements for this installation are
simple: we want control and stability, and we only need 10 x 1 gb
Ethernet interfaces max at this time.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We are looking at 4 x Cisco ASR 1004 would be
configured with 2 x 5 port gig interface card (40GB total system
capacity, 20Mpps)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Or<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We are looking at 4 x Juniper MX 80 which comes
with 48 x 1gb ports and 4 x 10gb ports (I believe) <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Juniper markets the MX 80 as twice the
performance at half the price (80GB total system capacity, 65Mpps)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The way I see it, it’s now really a Cisco vs
Juniper argument. Years ago I loved Juniper the SSG platform which was
fantastic and never missed a beat, although the new Juniper SRX
platform has left me really questioning Juniper on why they would
release a platform with countless bugs and issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">These Juniper issues have implanted fear in my
mind and questioning if it’s just a product line issue (i.e. the SRX)
or a Juniper issue in general. But on paper the Juniper MX 80 looks
fantastic!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would really love to hear some technical
information or even better field information on pros and cons for each
platform, arguments both for and against each. I’m sure Cisco has their
fair share of issues also… so let’s discuss!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kindest Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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