<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 23/09/2010, at 1:22 PM, Julien Goodwin wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The "average" attenuation is sufficient that VDSL2 from the exchange, along with issues around interference mean it's not very practical. VDSL2 is a "cabinet" technology - ie. FTTN style of thing where you place the active equipment within 1km or so of a house.<br></blockquote>Giving those of you with actual experience in getting this stuff<br>approved no real incentive to do so.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I take a bit of offence at that. We tried very hard. One of my engineers was on the Comms Alliance working group and put in a great deal of time with this. There were many attempts at compromise to get it approved. In the end, we could have had it approved (ie. unanimous vote) but in a way that would have meant a lot of forms of access would have disappeared (ie. no SHDSL, no AnnexM and poorer ADSL1/2/2+ from the exchange). </div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div></div><div>
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