<p>Hi Alex,</p>
<p>With three upstream providers, you may have issues with the maximum number of routes. The 720 3BXL only supports 1 million routes, sounds like alot but if you have three full international tables, the table isn't big enough as each one will be around 336,000 prefixes.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Bill</p>
<p>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:36:48 +1030, Alex Pinto <alex.pinto78@hotmail.com> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">The key requirements of this equipment is a blend of upstream transit providers, all hand off’ s will be Ethernet either fiber or copper and the 6500 on paper gives me a stupidly large port count for almost any 10/100/1000 copper or fiber ports, with even the option for 10gbit plus large cost effective performance.
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<br /> <br />> From: rdobbins@arbor.net<br />> To: ausnog@ausnog.net<br />> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:21:49 +0000<br />> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 6500 with Sup 720 3BXL - Good routing platform ??<br />> <br />> <br />> On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br />> <br />> > What do you actually need to do?<br />> <br />> We should keep in mind that there are baseline requirements for every edge device, which includes things like good flow telemetry, good antispoofing, good packet-filtering capabilities, good control- and management-plane self-protection, et. al.<br />> <br />> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />> Roland Dobbins // <br />> <br />> Sell your computer and buy a guitar.<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> _______________________________________________<br />> AusNOG mailing list<br />> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br />> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br /></span></div>
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<br /> <br />> From: rdobbins@arbor.net<br />> To: ausnog@ausnog.net<br />> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:21:49 +0000<br />> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 6500 with Sup 720 3BXL - Good routing platform ??<br />> <br />> <br />> On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br />> <br />> > What do you actually need to do?<br />> <br />> We should keep in mind that there are baseline requirements for every edge device, which includes things like good flow telemetry, good antispoofing, good packet-filtering capabilities, good control- and management-plane self-protection, et. al.<br />> <br />> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />> Roland Dobbins // <br />> <br />> Sell your computer and buy a guitar.<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> _______________________________________________<br />> AusNOG mailing list<br />> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br />> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br /></span></span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">On the security side I’m considering a pair of Juniper SRX 3600 if they prove to be stable.
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<br /> <br />> From: rdobbins@arbor.net<br />> To: ausnog@ausnog.net<br />> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:21:49 +0000<br />> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 6500 with Sup 720 3BXL - Good routing platform ??<br />> <br />> <br />> On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br />> <br />> > What do you actually need to do?<br />> <br />> We should keep in mind that there are baseline requirements for every edge device, which includes things like good flow telemetry, good antispoofing, good packet-filtering capabilities, good control- and management-plane self-protection, et. al.<br />> <br />> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />> Roland Dobbins // <br />> <br />> Sell your computer and buy a guitar.<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> _______________________________________________<br />> AusNOG mailing list<br />> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br />> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br /></span></div>
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<br /> <br />> From: rdobbins@arbor.net<br />> To: ausnog@ausnog.net<br />> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:21:49 +0000<br />> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 6500 with Sup 720 3BXL - Good routing platform ??<br />> <br />> <br />> On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br />> <br />> > What do you actually need to do?<br />> <br />> We should keep in mind that there are baseline requirements for every edge device, which includes things like good flow telemetry, good antispoofing, good packet-filtering capabilities, good control- and management-plane self-protection, et. al.<br />> <br />> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />> Roland Dobbins // <br />> <br />> Sell your computer and buy a guitar.<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> _______________________________________________<br />> AusNOG mailing list<br />> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br />> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br /></span></span></span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">I’m not too concerned about security (firewall<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>deep inspection) within this device as I want it purely for speed / routing / BGP downstream, but netflow and having control of packets is equally as important so maybe the 6500 platform might not be the best.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">On the security side I’m considering a pair of Juniper SRX 3600 if they prove to be stable.
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<br /> <br />> From: rdobbins@arbor.net<br />> To: ausnog@ausnog.net<br />> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:21:49 +0000<br />> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 6500 with Sup 720 3BXL - Good routing platform ??<br />> <br />> <br />> On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br />> <br />> > What do you actually need to do?<br />> <br />> We should keep in mind that there are baseline requirements for every edge device, which includes things like good flow telemetry, good antispoofing, good packet-filtering capabilities, good control- and management-plane self-protection, et. al.<br />> <br />> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />> Roland Dobbins // <br />> <br />> Sell your computer and buy a guitar.<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> _______________________________________________<br />> AusNOG mailing list<br />> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br />> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br /></span></div>
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<br /> <br />> From: rdobbins@arbor.net<br />> To: ausnog@ausnog.net<br />> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:21:49 +0000<br />> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 6500 with Sup 720 3BXL - Good routing platform ??<br />> <br />> <br />> On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br />> <br />> > What do you actually need to do?<br />> <br />> We should keep in mind that there are baseline requirements for every edge device, which includes things like good flow telemetry, good antispoofing, good packet-filtering capabilities, good control- and management-plane self-protection, et. al.<br />> <br />> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />> Roland Dobbins // <br />> <br />> Sell your computer and buy a guitar.<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> _______________________________________________<br />> AusNOG mailing list<br />> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br />> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br /></span></span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">On the security side I’m considering a pair of Juniper SRX 3600 if they prove to be stable.
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</span></span></p>
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<br /> <br />> From: rdobbins@arbor.net<br />> To: ausnog@ausnog.net<br />> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:21:49 +0000<br />> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 6500 with Sup 720 3BXL - Good routing platform ??<br />> <br />> <br />> On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br />> <br />> > What do you actually need to do?<br />> <br />> We should keep in mind that there are baseline requirements for every edge device, which includes things like good flow telemetry, good antispoofing, good packet-filtering capabilities, good control- and management-plane self-protection, et. al.<br />> <br />> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />> Roland Dobbins // <br />> <br />> Sell your computer and buy a guitar.<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> _______________________________________________<br />> AusNOG mailing list<br />> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br />> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br /></span></div>
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<br /> <br />> From: rdobbins@arbor.net<br />> To: ausnog@ausnog.net<br />> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:21:49 +0000<br />> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 6500 with Sup 720 3BXL - Good routing platform ??<br />> <br />> <br />> On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br />> <br />> > What do you actually need to do?<br />> <br />> We should keep in mind that there are baseline requirements for every edge device, which includes things like good flow telemetry, good antispoofing, good packet-filtering capabilities, good control- and management-plane self-protection, et. al.<br />> <br />> -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br />> Roland Dobbins // <br />> <br />> Sell your computer and buy a guitar.<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> _______________________________________________<br />> AusNOG mailing list<br />> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br />> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br />
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