<html><head><base href="x-msg://2844/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Alex,<div>If you're going to be using a 65/76xx for BGP then seriously consider the 3CXL based Sups as they are significantly faster CPU wise.</div><div><br></div><div>Having said that, we don't use them for edge routing - only internal "glue". For external we use GSR12k and ASR1ks as they do a better job - especially for connectivity to IXes where things like mac-address accounting are really critical for managing peering.</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br><div><div>On 19/09/2010, at 12:45 PM, Alex Pinto wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Dear AusNog<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"></font></font> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">I’m looking at setting up a new pop site with 2 x Cisco 6509 each unit will have 2 x<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: black; ">WS-SUP720-3BXL, with upgraded flash and 1GB of memory on each supervisor. We will have 10 upstream providers and do a fair bit of BGP. The combination of hardware above will do a total of 40bgits per slot, or a total of 720gbits across each complete unit. From a packet point of view each 6509 will do 400 million packets per second for IPv4 and 200 million packets per second for IPv6 all hardware processed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"></font></font></span> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Compared to the typical Cisco 7200 platform with a NPE G2 which only does 2 million packets per second the 6509 platform offers some serious performance difference…. So what’s the catch ?? other than physical size ? and the fact the 6500 is a few years old ?<o:p></o:p></font></font></span></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"></font></font> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">The investment will be a good $30k per unit (before shopping around for a good price)<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Is anyone else running this setup, how do you find it, and is it worth investing in a 6500 technology or something else ?<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"></font></font> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">The Juniper MX80 with 65 million packets per second, or the MX240 with 360 million packets per second also seem like good options, but at 150k per device it’s a much larger investment which is hard to justify when the 6500 platform seems so attractive.<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"></font></font> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Thanks for your help and advice in advance</font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri"><o:p></o:p></font></font> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Alex<o:p></o:p></font></font></p><br></div></span></blockquote></div><div>
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