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color:#1F497D'>Don’t forget the portal..<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Gotta watch the boat-people telnetting in or something,..<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Moss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 16 September 2010 10:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Grahame Lynch; James Cole<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Malcolm Turnbull to Comms role<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>What are you talking about, Senator Conroy is a communications
expert with extensive experience on iPhone and Fibre Optic cable.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Regards, <br>
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<strong><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Darren Moss</span></strong><b><br>
</b>General Manager<br>
Australia and New Zealand<br>
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em3 People and Technology, Managed Technology Experts<br>
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2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189<br>
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<strong><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>New Zealand</span></strong>
Airedale Street, Auckland City<br>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Grahame Lynch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 16 September 2010 10:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> James Cole<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Malcolm Turnbull to Comms role</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Totally.. part of the idea of a
politician as a community representative is to protect us from special
interests as much as advocate them...<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On 16 September 2010 18:51, James Cole <<a
href="mailto:cole@sircole.net">cole@sircole.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Funny you should say that because from what I've learnt if a
politician knows all about one subject they tend to make the politicians role
about something completely different. Idea is that a politician who is a
network engineer would be too biased to properly fulfill the role of a
communications minister.. <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Mark Smith <<a
href="mailto:nanog@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org"
target="_blank">nanog@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:46:31
+1000<br>
"Sean K. Finn" <<a href="mailto:sean.finn@ozservers.com.au"
target="_blank">sean.finn@ozservers.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Did anyone invite communications minister Conroy to attend AusNOG..<br>
><br>
> We should invite Malcom Turnbull or other shadow minister as well as<br>
> current Comms minister in advance for next year as this is a fairly<br>
> relevant event, a refusal to show up or snub AusNOG would be<br>
> considered very very bad form, with the opportunity for the shadow<br>
> minister to cease on a now show to publicly display non interaction<br>
> between industry and govt.<br>
><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>It'd probably be easier to turn a network engineer into a
politician<br>
than the other way around ... politicians aren't going to be able to<br>
make value judgements on mechanisms, and conversely sometimes choose<br>
not to listen to the limitations of the mechanisms (URL<br>
filtering/recordig at NBN speeds and coverage?) if it doesn't suit their<br>
policies.<br>
<br>
Politicians should stick to policy, because that's their job.<o:p></o:p></p>

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> And if he does show perhaps some of us can educate the ministers,<br>
> straight from the horses mouth.<br>
><br>
> S<br>
><br>
> On 15/09/2010, at 7:15 AM, "Noel Butler" <<a
href="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net" target="_blank">noel.butler@ausics.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 06:50 +1000, Steve Baxter wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >> I do not think you will find many who thought Tony Smith was the
best<br>
> >> communications shadow available.<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> > *nod*<br>
> ><br>
> > Nick Minchin would have walked all over Conartist , err I mean,<br>
> > Conroy...<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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