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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes a spell checker might have been prudent. (not that I can
talk much about spelling)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Courtesy ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>skeeve@eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>NOC, NOC, who's there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pinkerton, Eric<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 September 2010 5:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephen Carter<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I'll let Google speak for me...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=spell><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#CC0000'>Did you mean: </span></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'><a
href="http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&&sa=X&ei=vfl9TNm0J4igvQOE-LiDDg&ved=0CAQQBSgA&q=define%3Afacetious&spell=1"><b><i><span
style='color:#0000CC'>facetious</span></i></b></a></span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>;-)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Stephen
Carter [mailto:Stephen.Carter@workingtech.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 September 2010 4:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Phillip Grasso<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pinkerton, Eric; ausnog@ausnog.net List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Two words that should be added to the Charter:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:
7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Professional
courtisy<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:
7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ethics<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You guys are serious hilarious.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you run a great company people come to you, you don’t
need to advertise... tip: good place to start </span></b><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span></b><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Good luck with your search [not being facicious].<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Phillip Grasso
[mailto:phillip.grasso@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 September 2010 4:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephen Carter<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pinkerton, Eric; ausnog@ausnog.net List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>hopefully this is not bad form,
rather then sending starting another thread on this topic for those that are
not interested, instead i'll append to this one. Hopefully you don't mind the
competition for candidates (although I suspect we're after different segment of
candidates). <br>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/jobs/sydney/engops/opsit/security-engineer-sydney/index.html">http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/jobs/sydney/engops/opsit/security-engineer-sydney/index.html</a><br>
<br>
We're also after <a
href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/uslocations/reston/engops/datacenter/network-security-engineer-google-com-reston/index.html">Network
Security engineers</a>, but you'll need to consider working in the US. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Stephen Carter <<a
href="mailto:Stephen.Carter@workingtech.com">Stephen.Carter@workingtech.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Agreed </span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>PS you are welcome to send your resume
to us if you want then </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:#1F497D'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pinkerton, Eric<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 September 2010 4:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephen Carter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>
List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I'll take that on the chin, but for the record,
I'm an engineer not a recruiter.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>The level of interest off
list far outweighs the flames, so I'm happy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>PS. If your staff are happy you have
nothing to fear ;-)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Carter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 September 2010 2:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pinkerton, Eric<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>
List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Welcome to Seek / Telstra</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>We should change the charter to include
exclusive recruitment channel for Telstra</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>How unusual for Telstra to not care
about the rest of the market. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pinkerton, Eric<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 September 2010 2:30 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] Where are all the Network / Security Enginees?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I wouldn't normally consider this, and hope
posting this it isn't poor form (the charter makes no mention), but
having exhausted all the usual methods we are still struggling to
find a Network/Security Engineer in Sydney CBD with either the right
level of experience, or the enthusiasm and aptitude to make up for it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>So if you know anyone who fit's the bill,
and might be interested feel free to contact me off list or view the
JD here - <a
href="http://www.seek.com.au/job/network-security-b-engineer-b/sydney/18023781/97/1/"
target="_blank" title="New window will open"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>http://www.seek.com.au/job/network-security-b-engineer-b/sydney/18023781/97/1/</span></a></span><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>We are willing to train the right person if
nessessary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Apologies in advance if I have broken any
unwritten rules here!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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